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Ilikepurple

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178. I'm also sick of the "bashing" BS. It feels facile and counterproductive.
Fri Feb 6, 2026, 01:25 AM
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I’m not sure where the “bashing” narrative started, but it runs hard amongst a certain group that seems strangely overprotective of every decision our leadership makes. I’m willing to listen to arguments that the criticism is unfair, unfounded or even just rude. I might even learn something as has happened on occasion. Some who identify as progressive paradoxically insist we fall in line with the status quo. I’m not sure they understand progress requires change. It’s also okay if you don’t identify as a progressive, but if that’s the case defend your platform rather than not very democratically principled demand for conformity. What shape that takes is up for debate and that’s where divergent views may become useful. Regrettably, I think the idea is that then left leaning part of the party should concentrate on criticizing republicans because the center right has their hands full fending off any incursion from the left? They seemingly like to bash progressive constituents rather than left leaning politicians as to not betray their actual political views, although it sounds like Murielm99 has a word or two she’d like to share about Bernie and AOC, which contrary to her statement is surely allowed by DU’s TOS. If she was so bold to do so, we could then have a political discussion rather than this siblings in the car “he punched me first” nonsense. Who will bash the bashers? I think this thread provides some clues.

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Well played. Permanut Thursday #1
Absolutely! FalloutShelter Thursday #14
What are we playing? Own the libs? Ilikepurple Thursday #111
Please define critical discussion mcar Thursday #123
It's not this response. I imagined something closer to the discussion you and Cirsium had below. Ilikepurple Thursday #168
Excellent post. Orrex 20 hrs ago #207
Post removed Post removed Thursday #164
I agree LetMyPeopleVote Yesterday #180
abolish ICE is not gonna happen and it is a bad look. there are some things I would like to see happen msongs Thursday #2
OK, did Shumer and Jeffries meet that minimum? Escurumbele Thursday #50
Seems to me they have mcar Thursday #124
Mahalo for Link, mcar... Turns out this is my fave Cha Yesterday #177
Already bending on masks. we can do it Thursday #163
Nope mcar Thursday #166
Also stop the roving kidnap patrols sboatcar Thursday #71
Well done. sheshe2 Thursday #3
They're hiding under the couch hoping GOP unpopularity will propel them to majority. Won't work. 617Blue Thursday #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Gore1FL Thursday #12
People keep forgetting we have a MINORITY STATUS in Congress Just_Vote_Dem Thursday #5
You're right. If we don't understand that, MineralMan Thursday #7
The solution is not to roll over hoping for a belly scratch.. NT Gore1FL Thursday #15
Sorry that doesn't hold water LearnedHand Thursday #136
When did "Republicans grind Congress to a halt" when they were out of power? lapucelle 19 hrs ago #214
Abolish ICE Prairie Gates Thursday #6
Great Idea. Now...How do you do that in reality? MineralMan Thursday #8
Abolish ICE Prairie Gates Thursday #9
You already said that. It's a great idea. MineralMan Thursday #11
Abolish ICE Prairie Gates Thursday #13
So you got nothing. beaglelover Thursday #20
Abolish ICE Prairie Gates Thursday #22
In two words. MineralMan Thursday #24
Abolish ICE Prairie Gates Thursday #26
I want a pony. tritsofme Thursday #64
Abolish ICE Prairie Gates Thursday #66
I want TWO ponies! tritsofme Thursday #84
Abolish ICE Prairie Gates Thursday #94
huh? Cirsium Thursday #117
Imagine thinking antifascism is wanting a pony! Prairie Gates Thursday #139
When I started hearing that "pony" nonsense Cirsium Thursday #142
The same supposed realists now asking how many mask wearing fascists should be allowed Prairie Gates Thursday #145
Naming reality clearly Cirsium Thursday #152
Abolish ICE is a performative slogan, not an actual policy demand. tritsofme 22 hrs ago #191
I agree - slogans aren't policy Cirsium 21 hrs ago #198
+1 leftstreet 20 hrs ago #205
What I'm objecting to is the imposition of impossible demands aimed at Democratic politicians tritsofme 20 hrs ago #208
Thanks Cirsium 19 hrs ago #212
Not really. Just "pull the plug" basically. FoxNewsSucks Thursday #41
Well, then they can scream that Schumer/Jeffries "caved" mcar Thursday #126
My idea? JustAnotherGen Thursday #29
Use the Senate rules to stop ICE funding. Gore1FL Thursday #19
Both of my Senators would vote that way. MineralMan Thursday #23
No help from my Senators, unfortunately calguy Thursday #90
So using your voice to influence legislators is okay or not? Ilikepurple Thursday #103
Neither would. Josh Hawley and Eric Schmitt are into white nationalism. Gore1FL Thursday #149
+1 GOP poll numbers make them vulnerable leftstreet Thursday #25
I'm going beyond that JustAnotherGen Thursday #30
That's the bottom line Prairie Gates Thursday #38
ICE has already been funded, it will continue to operate during a shutdown, and... W_HAMILTON Thursday #33
probably, but instead of rolling belly up, Dems should MAKE tRump do that. FoxNewsSucks Thursday #43
Who is "rolling belly up?" nt mcar Thursday #128
We do it when we have a trifect JustAnotherGen Thursday #56
That's a nice idea, but a Sinema/Manchin/Fetterman/LIEbermann du jour FoxNewsSucks Thursday #161
So, They have money now and if we try to stop them from getting more... Gore1FL Thursday #100
Vote against funding ICE for starters iemanja Thursday #63
It starts with advocacy Cirsium Thursday #77
In reality, the next president can just issue intheflow Thursday #91
Missed the point, again, I see. Gore1FL Thursday #10
No, I did not. I missed nothing. MineralMan Thursday #18
So the intention is to gaslight? Gore1FL Thursday #98
OK Cirsium Thursday #118
Is constantly bashing Schumer/Jeffries, mcar Thursday #129
"Bashing" vs accountability Cirsium Thursday #132
He did not miss the point. murielm99 Thursday #79
I didn't know the point of DU was to cower in the corner. Gore1FL Thursday #101
I'm a purist when it comes to fascist gangs kidnapping and murdering people in the street Prairie Gates Thursday #141
If I ignored your bashing, murielm99 Yesterday #170
WTF? Gore1FL Yesterday #173
This is true. mcar 20 hrs ago #202
Sooooo when elected Dems want to grease the skids for FoxNewsSucks Thursday #162
Don't try to put words in my mouth murielm99 Yesterday #171
See the question marks? that's NOT FoxNewsSucks Yesterday #174
I'm also sick of the "bashing" BS. It feels facile and counterproductive. Ilikepurple Yesterday #178
Well said! beaglelover Thursday #16
ICE hasn't been around that long, it was a fascist invention just like the debt ceiling, we can be the go along party or yaesu Thursday #17
What sort of fighting are you talking about? MineralMan Thursday #21
I would argue that there are "turning points" in between elections Ilikepurple Thursday #115
This point would have been arguable decades ago FHRRK Thursday #27
+1 leftstreet Thursday #78
It's very frustrating. Quiet Em Thursday #28
Dividing the Democratic Party is key. Targeting customized anti-Democratic attacks to fit. betsuni Thursday #36
Bingo! mcar Thursday #130
This thread MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #172
Nonsense Cirsium Thursday #31
"People can disagree with leadership and still be loyal Democrats." W_HAMILTON Thursday #34
I strongly question that Cirsium Thursday #40
As a progressive myself, i am cleaning up my own house here. W_HAMILTON Thursday #44
Out of line Cirsium Thursday #76
I'm not sure what cleaning house means other than resolving to silence progressive voices Ilikepurple Thursday #119
When people like myself were telling everyone the dangers of Trump back in 2016... W_HAMILTON 19 hrs ago #215
And again, everyone here did vote for those people. Scrivener7 Thursday #148
Why do you question that? MineralMan Thursday #46
Of course Cirsium Thursday #80
"No single raindrop thinks it's responsible for the flood." W_HAMILTON Thursday #104
Democrat Party? MineralMan Thursday #97
Hardly Cirsium Thursday #107
Yes, supporting and voting for the Democratic candidate is a loyalty test here. W_HAMILTON 19 hrs ago #216
There we go Cirsium 18 hrs ago #217
Agree--I'm so tired of being accused of not being a loyal Democrat if I disagree with leadership on occasion crimycarny Thursday #54
Not having majorities in the House and Senate 3825-87867 Thursday #93
FYI SocialDemocrat61 Thursday #112
Yep Cirsium 22 hrs ago #186
You're telling Mineral Man to stop with the purity tests? mcar Thursday #131
Correct Cirsium Thursday #133
And those bashing Schumer/Jeffries aren't? mcar Thursday #134
I agree with that Cirsium Thursday #140
A. You invoked purity mcar Thursday #144
I know Cirsium Thursday #151
Thank you Cirsium! mcar Thursday #153
Thank you! Cirsium Thursday #154
Come on angrychair Thursday #32
My answer has to do with only one thing - Elections. MineralMan Thursday #35
Yes we need to vote D. We also need to inspire nonvoters to do so. we can do it Thursday #39
No one person will meet 100% of any persons requirements. 1WorldHope Thursday #52
"Plump bump" Seinan Sensei Thursday #59
The full title is plump bump on my rump😎 1WorldHope Thursday #68
And I don't think criticizing leadership on certain issues equates to wanting 100% crimycarny Thursday #160
"VOTE FOR DEMOCRATS! EVERY LAST F-ING TIME! NOTHING LESS WILL DO." I agree with that--- Jack Valentino Thursday #167
Understood Cirsium 20 hrs ago #199
If we do not win the elections, we do not have the majority MineralMan 20 hrs ago #200
Agreed! Cirsium 20 hrs ago #201
I do not know the factors that decide elections, frankly. MineralMan 20 hrs ago #204
Good post Cirsium 19 hrs ago #213
Abolish ICE we can do it Thursday #37
Yeah, that Got Us So Far in 2016 and 2024 Cha Thursday #42
These 2 are not meeting the moment, end of story dsp3000 Thursday #45
I see. And I should be listening to you because... MineralMan Thursday #47
The Author Didn't Say You Should. It's A Declarative, Not An Imperative. ColoringFool Thursday #106
You made a post. The poster replied. How is their action more deserving of a snide dismissal than yours is? Scrivener7 Thursday #135
Not even 95%! hay rick Thursday #48
Just so. MineralMan Thursday #49
Exactly. betsuni Thursday #67
legislators Cirsium 22 hrs ago #187
Different constituents will have different messages. hay rick 22 hrs ago #192
Maybe Cirsium 21 hrs ago #195
This message was self-deleted by its author hadEnuf Thursday #51
The only way to avoid disappointment is to lack principles. Renew Deal Thursday #53
Politicians doing politics, governing. No! True saviors MAKE evil disappear with magic FIGHTING to MEET THE MOMENT. betsuni Thursday #55
Some of the posts on here are damn nasty. MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #175
What I want to see. . . . BigDemVoter Thursday #57
The Trick Is to Get That Majority in Congress. MineralMan Thursday #69
Vote as one, yes Cirsium 22 hrs ago #189
THANK YOU! MorbidButterflyTat Thursday #58
Most of us care about standing up to fascism iemanja Thursday #60
Um. If 24 Republicans voted against a bill that only 7 Democrats voted for, there is no way it passed. Wiz Imp Thursday #73
You're right iemanja Thursday #99
Yeah. Don't vote. That'll show them. CountMyVote4Reality Thursday #61
Who is saying don't vote? we can do it Thursday #165
No one Cirsium 22 hrs ago #190
Vote in the Democratic primaries and vote for Progressive Democratic candidates! Clouds Passing Thursday #62
Please point to ANYONE saying they won't vote aocommunalpunch Thursday #65
Anyone saying they won't vote is not here on DU. MineralMan Thursday #70
Talk to them, then Cirsium 21 hrs ago #197
Insisting on political purity is what defeats Democratic candidates . love_katz Thursday #72
This message was self-deleted by its author orangecrush Thursday #74
Recommended. H2O Man Thursday #75
Agree completely. cksmithy Thursday #81
Elections have consequences. love_katz Thursday #82
. Zelda_Orchid Thursday #83
I don't berate some for being upset, especially the current situation with ICE. mdbl Thursday #85
We're the minority party. Where's the advantage? QueerDuck Thursday #95
Did you miss the part where the Senate can't pass the ICE portion without Democrats? mdbl Thursday #113
Everyone has reasons for supporting or not supporting the politicians that are elected to represent them. Nanjeanne Thursday #86
This is an awesome post. Scrivener7 Thursday #137
Thanks. It's just how I feel. Nanjeanne Thursday #159
here's my deal quakerboy Thursday #87
It's more about people being tired of those who think performative resistance Rob H. Thursday #88
I am reminded of a line in Amiri Baraka's poem... NNadir Thursday #89
They were never ours Cirsium 22 hrs ago #194
With respect to your last line, it's true for me. NNadir 20 hrs ago #210
Yes! You speak for me! They should just IGNORE that we're the MINORITY party... QueerDuck Thursday #92
I think that may be the biggest straw man I've seen all week. Iggo Thursday #96
Well, ya know, shit's not going to stir itself. Someone's gotta do it. Scrivener7 Thursday #138
I agree. BannonsLiver Thursday #102
How Is Agreeing To Masks Making "No Masks" "Possible To.... ColoringFool Thursday #105
Bruce Springsteen - STREETS OF MINNEAPOLIS Emile Thursday #108
Reality is sometimes hard to accept Progressive dog Thursday #109
I Would Like A Positive Example Of When Compromise With Republicans Has Helped Achieve... ColoringFool Thursday #110
A straw man. Nice. themaguffin Thursday #114
As others have correctly pointed out, this is a straw man fallacy. De-rec. nt Celerity Thursday #116
How so? It seems we'll reasoned and right on target. QueerDuck Thursday #121
this part: Celerity Thursday #156
This message was self-deleted by its author QueerDuck Thursday #157
It's a truthful parody of the ridiculous complains and... QueerDuck Thursday #158
But is it a strawman? MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #176
It's neither. Only those who felt insecure or threatened when forced to look in the mirror... QueerDuck Yesterday #181
Parody is always risky in a public discussion. MineralMan 19 hrs ago #211
Waiting for permission from the future Cirsium Thursday #120
Why aren't they impeaching Trump RIGHT NOW!!11 mcar Thursday #122
Apparently they are lazy and too old... QueerDuck Thursday #143
Spineless, Turd Wayers mcar Thursday #146
OMG! 🤣😂🤣😂😜 QueerDuck Yesterday #182
I don't agree with Schumer and Jeffries 100% of the time SocialDemocrat61 Thursday #125
RESCIND bdamomma Thursday #127
🪄🧙‍♂️🔮🧚‍♀️ It's so easy. Just do it. QueerDuck Thursday #147
I understand that the Democratic leadership markodochartaigh Thursday #150
I am regularly disappointed in both of those guys. MontanaMama Thursday #155
I'm still at a loss who this is directed at as obviously almost all of us vote Democrat Ilikepurple Thursday #169
Why post a divisive and insulting OP? PufPuf23 Yesterday #179
Yes, you're right. They should keep doing exactly what they're doing. Orrex Yesterday #183
Thank you, Orrex. hamsterjill Yesterday #184
Oh, my God. I love this. Scrivener7 23 hrs ago #185
I edited my reply to Orrex hamsterjill 22 hrs ago #193
Great post! Deserves a valentine heart 💝 Emile 22 hrs ago #188
K & R Emile 21 hrs ago #196
+1 leftstreet 20 hrs ago #206
The piling on by some is embarrassing. I'm hoping it's mostly trolls or bots Greybnk48 20 hrs ago #203
No trolls or bots Cirsium 18 hrs ago #218
My hope is that you are right (about this sort of bashing and disagreement being healthy discourse Greybnk48 18 hrs ago #219
I hear you Cirsium 17 hrs ago #220
I don't like it when they support Trump n GOP NAZIs Kid Berwyn 20 hrs ago #209
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