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hay rick

(9,494 posts)
53. Florida is the poster child for the corrupting influence of term limits.
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 11:44 AM
11 hrs ago

Florida politicians come up through a system in which statewide offices have 8 year term limits. The 120 Florida House members and 40 State Senators are paid around $30,000 a year- not enough to support a family. The people that are able to do this are in a position where they can take 3 months leave from their business or come from family wealth. Because these jobs do not create a professional career path, the greater incentive is to use the position and contacts to benefit themselves and those who have supported them and will continue to benefit them in the future. The incentives are perverse and grease the wheels of corruption.

If we do not offer politicians a path to developing professional excellence we will get the mediocrity and widespread corruption we claim we wish to avoid.

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Please, stop with the TERM LIMITS bs. [View all] 4bonhoffer 14 hrs ago OP
You are so right. Americanme 14 hrs ago #1
That's a good point Conjuay 14 hrs ago #2
Same! EuterpeThelo 14 hrs ago #9
re: "Agreed we should primary those who aren't effective" thesquanderer 11 hrs ago #54
I agree with you. Its ridiculous. Callie1979 6 hrs ago #75
100% Right on! NT CommonHumanity 14 hrs ago #3
I think that the longer someone stays in politics, the more likely they have convictions. everyonematters 14 hrs ago #4
Yes, or to feather their nest, lately that's the goal Walleye 14 hrs ago #6
The problem is that the LACK of term limits is what allows members of Congress to gain more seniority, pnwmom 1 hr ago #90
I agree 100%, besides it's unconstitutional, not that that matters anymore Walleye 14 hrs ago #5
How is it unconstitutional? iemanja 3 hrs ago #85
The Constitution sets the qualification for representatives and senators. TomSlick 2 hrs ago #88
Term limits who have deprived us . . Michiblue 14 hrs ago #7
There are just as many good reasons for term limits as there are bad ones. sop 14 hrs ago #8
+1 leftstreet 12 hrs ago #35
We need campaign finance reform MadameButterfly 12 hrs ago #37
Because they are two sides of the same bright, shiny coin. Maru Kitteh 10 hrs ago #65
i also object to the party putting thumbs on the scale to promote the leadership's MadameButterfly 8 hrs ago #67
I agree with that. I guess I was primarily speaking to the poster's Maru Kitteh 4 hrs ago #83
This message was self-deleted by its author Maru Kitteh 5 hrs ago #76
Bingo. See reply at #39 harumph 11 hrs ago #46
How about putting the other changes in place MadameButterfly 8 hrs ago #68
They WHERE CALLED ELECTIONS now they are called how do we screw the voters and keep them from voting. usaf-vet 13 hrs ago #10
which, of course - doesn't address the subject (or point made) in the OP in the slightest ... - - -(nt)- stopdiggin 11 hrs ago #43
I agree PatSeg 13 hrs ago #11
we need real term limits..two terms and out... agingdem 13 hrs ago #12
I've been preaching this for years. Not to mention the revolving door to lobbying would accelerate... themaguffin 13 hrs ago #13
Term limits are aniicemocratic. If they've been there too long vote em out. tirebiter 13 hrs ago #14
There are so many things that need to be reformed before we can even consider term limits ibegurpard 13 hrs ago #15
Preach! ybbor 13 hrs ago #16
The problem is gerrymandering, not term limits. Emile 13 hrs ago #17
I've been arguing against term limits for years. Martin Eden 13 hrs ago #18
Very difficult to overcome incumbent name recognition MichMan 4 hrs ago #81
Every citizen should recognize the name of their representative in the House and both senators Martin Eden 2 hrs ago #87
I believe name recognition is a significant factor for many voters MichMan 48 min ago #91
And THAT is why our representative democracy is so dysfunctional Martin Eden 16 min ago #93
Totally agree DownriverDem 13 hrs ago #19
I'll take it a step further Polybius 13 hrs ago #20
let's hold off until trump is out. We don't need to give him even more incentive to fuck things up. themaguffin 13 hrs ago #22
He's more unpopular than ever now though Polybius 13 hrs ago #23
Obama isn't going to run. Getting past this shit show is priority 1 themaguffin 10 hrs ago #61
at this point - cab67 7 hrs ago #70
100% agree. The best argument against term limits is this question: Pototan 13 hrs ago #21
I like that analogy. tinrobot 12 hrs ago #29
No question homegirl 2 hrs ago #89
Yes! radical noodle 12 hrs ago #24
If elections define one's term . . . otchmoson 12 hrs ago #25
it just empowers staffers. mopinko 12 hrs ago #26
Yes, because it's important to have octogenerians driving our culture relayerbob 12 hrs ago #27
Thank you. We need to fix election financing, gerrymandering, and the electoral college. tinrobot 12 hrs ago #28
I would make one exception - cab67 12 hrs ago #30
there is no way to remove Supreme Court justices ibegurpard 12 hrs ago #32
Please stop telling people what to consider/debate Mysterian 12 hrs ago #31
How about for SCOTUS? CaptainTruth 12 hrs ago #33
The voters NEVER got a choice there stopdiggin 11 hrs ago #52
Yes, clearly. And I still think it makes sense to have term limits for SCOTUS. CaptainTruth 10 hrs ago #60
I'm in favor of 8 years for SC Justices LogDog75 6 hrs ago #71
Interesting. Thanks for sharing! CaptainTruth 5 hrs ago #80
I agree with you and add this point: Mr. Mustard 2023 12 hrs ago #34
Make them fill out job applications leftstreet 12 hrs ago #36
What we need is campaign finance reform Beausoleil 12 hrs ago #38
I used to be in the no term limits camp - not anymore. harumph 12 hrs ago #39
except that 'term limits' doesn't really address any of the aggrievements you have with the system stopdiggin 11 hrs ago #49
I think we need an age limit for service Mosby 12 hrs ago #40
You are right. I was so impressed with our Dems in Congress during the Ghislaine Bondi hearings this past weekend Maraya1969 12 hrs ago #41
I believe in term limits. Layzeebeaver 12 hrs ago #42
Term limits has always been the province of the low brow, bumper sticker mentality stopdiggin 11 hrs ago #44
Term limits don't solve a single problem. Its a populist slogan that adds zero value to anything. FascismIsDeath 11 hrs ago #45
I'm a believer in term limits. However, back during the Gingrich days, the repugs talked term limits until they got Wonder Why 11 hrs ago #47
Do you favor repeal of the 22nd amendment? n/t Shrek 11 hrs ago #48
Both that and the age-baiting arguments have too many flaws Torchlight 11 hrs ago #50
We already have term limits: the voting cycle. Get the vote out. Stop accepting your vote means nothing ... marble falls 11 hrs ago #51
Florida is the poster child for the corrupting influence of term limits. hay rick 11 hrs ago #53
B I.N.G.O. markodochartaigh 11 hrs ago #57
I disagree ABC123Easy 11 hrs ago #55
In my opinion - cab67 7 hrs ago #69
You may be able to pass laws to limit partisan gerrymandering, BUT . . . markpkessinger 6 hrs ago #73
Agreed! ABC123Easy 4 hrs ago #82
WHY IS NOBODY SAYING the bottom line. markodochartaigh 11 hrs ago #56
Example: what if Chris Murphy of Adam Schiff were ALBliberal 11 hrs ago #58
I am with you on this. pandr32 11 hrs ago #59
Agreed, for additional reasons: Exp 10 hrs ago #62
Nationalization of politics, blaming those crooks off in Washington, Drain the Swamp. But not their own reps! betsuni 10 hrs ago #63
Completely agree! MatthewStLouis 10 hrs ago #64
Agree completely. Term limits are really just a limit on Democracy. It's telling voters they can't have their chosen tritsofme 9 hrs ago #66
I favor term limits for Executive offices and Supreme Courts LogDog75 6 hrs ago #72
Sorry I still support an Amendment for term limits. Lifetime seats have gotten ridiculous. Callie1979 6 hrs ago #74
Dingell family from Detroit area MichMan 21 min ago #92
Citizen's United is the "corporate wet dream" that term limits, well, limits Dave says 5 hrs ago #77
I whole heartedly agree 👍 Figarosmom 5 hrs ago #78
Agreed! People only want term limits when the don't like who's in office. JohnnyRingo 5 hrs ago #79
Why is it that people think they have a right to censors others' posts and thoughts iemanja 3 hrs ago #84
Can we at least change the presidential term limit to 1 week for this presidency only? mdbl 3 hrs ago #86
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