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In reply to the discussion: Ted Lieu: "allegations of Donald Trump raping children ... of Donald Trump threatening to kill children. " [View all]AZJonnie
(3,338 posts)55. Demanding the extrajudicial murder of people over mundane emails to Epstein is not "the moderate, level-headed position"
We have actual government officials saying we can't go after everyone because the whole system would crash
Who is this, and what is the exact quote and context? And why does their experience with the facts exceed that of the DoJ (including 4 years of Biden's DoJ)?
IMHO, people should read the whole of this "Epstein Files Deep Dive" article by the Associated Press (from 9 days ago). I'd also humbly suggest some might consider moderating some extreme positions they may be taking, but to each their own
https://apnews.com/article/jeffrey-epstein-client-list-sex-trafficking-049c96080a2ca2c12c84ac506437e50b
From the 2019 FBI notes in the files, copied from the article:
While one Epstein victim made highly public claims that he lent her to his rich friends, agents couldnt confirm that and found no other victims telling a similar story, the records said. (snip)
No other victim has described being expressly directed by either Maxwell or Epstein to engage in sexual activity with other men the memo said. (snip)
No other victim has described being expressly directed by either Maxwell or Epstein to engage in sexual activity with other men the memo said. (snip)
I'll add that much of this article may sound familiar if you've seen my many posts urging a degree of moderation on the whole "pedo cabal" conspiracy theory over the last 6 months
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Ted Lieu: "allegations of Donald Trump raping children ... of Donald Trump threatening to kill children. " [View all]
sheshe2
17 hrs ago
OP
Did anyone here ever imagine that we would see the US sink to a level
Whyisthisstillclose
16 hrs ago
#1
Did anyone here ever imagine that the media and a large part of the country are okay with it
durablend
16 hrs ago
#9
I don't think they're okay with it, just don't believe it either because they're MAGA or can't accept such things happen
ChicagoTeamster
15 hrs ago
#12
Sink to? Sally Hemings might like a word. IMO the real hope was that we had finally risen above...
Ol Janx Spirit
15 hrs ago
#13
This kind of debauchery and cruelty are not new. All one needs is to remember about the Hellfire Club in England and
Texin
15 hrs ago
#21
It is a much more complicated discussion, but there is good evidence that it is the evil...
Ol Janx Spirit
5 hrs ago
#92
No, but I never expected to see a ruskie ASSet in the WH either, ruling like a mob boss.
SheltieLover
14 hrs ago
#33
I think she leaves the Epstein files to other late-night commentators. I'd rather hear Jen Psaki and especially
generalbetrayus
15 hrs ago
#14
Maybe it makes her physically ill. This has that effect on some people. I'm one of them.
SheltieLover
14 hrs ago
#35
Demanding the extrajudicial murder of people over mundane emails to Epstein is not "the moderate, level-headed position"
AZJonnie
12 hrs ago
#55
"agents couldn't confirm that and found no other victims telling a similar story,"
Wiz Imp
10 hrs ago
#68
I don't care who said that. It's a fact that many victims have provided testimony that
Wiz Imp
8 hrs ago
#83
Are you this far into this discussion, saying mean things to me, NOT having looked into who said all that yet?
AZJonnie
1 hr ago
#104
I ignore many, many Epstein posts I disagree with, but on THIS topic, yes I will often comment
AZJonnie
12 hrs ago
#57
Okay, well ya got me! I should have gone back and re-read it, I took your word for it
AZJonnie
8 hrs ago
#82
OH ABSOLUTELY!!! I'm saying I probably vaguely recalled seeing video of Ted saying "evidence" just days ago
AZJonnie
3 hrs ago
#102
It's surprising to me how much control there actually is over the media right now.
hamsterjill
14 hrs ago
#31
WTG Rep. Lieu! For a story that was six months ago declared dead on arrival
Torchlight
14 hrs ago
#38
the motherfucking child rapist POTUS needs to resign... but will Republicans pressure him?
LymphocyteLover
8 hrs ago
#85