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In reply to the discussion: I am a 15-year-old girl. Let me show you the vile misogyny that confronts me on social media every day [View all]
GenThePerservering
(3,189 posts)65. Boys jump at that shit in a nanosecond
and have since I was a kid. Now they have a means of amplifying it, but now as then, I think it's a minority of losers who are 'very online' and have nothing else to do, but boys can basically be stupid, horrible pack followers.
I've been on social media since the beginning, and not identifying as female in most situations, keeping strict control over feeds and having a fuck-you attitude to rubbish (this poor kid sounds overwhelmed and I don't blame her) were just basics.
Since I use SM for my business, I have a lit of experience with it.
ETA: Telling this girl to get off SM won't work, but there needs to be some work and education to help girls deal with this, like the self-defense and martial arts basics every girl needs to be trained in, even if it does cause male tears.
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I am a 15-year-old girl. Let me show you the vile misogyny that confronts me on social media every day [View all]
marble falls
Yesterday
OP
There is a cure for all these, but no one wants to do it...UNSUBSCRIBE to ALL of it! That is the CURE!
Escurumbele
Yesterday
#24
Because we let them. Because there is no credible protest against this. Because this
Scrivener7
20 hrs ago
#136
What about having men police themselves? How many men call out other men for their hateful comments and threats?
ihaveaquestion
Yesterday
#86
Using "male" as an adjective rather than a noun is appropriate. Here's a link
spooky3
20 hrs ago
#143
I doubt there are many men on this forum who disagree that there are men who are disrespectful to women, and
Doodley
15 hrs ago
#186
Why anyone still uses any Zuckerberg product is beyond me. No one needs that and they're
Scrivener7
Yesterday
#3
Same here, and I'm a 78-year-old man with a wife and sisters. Email, and DU is the extent of my online activity.
usaf-vet
Yesterday
#52
Then, at the very least, there needs to be a movement demanding adequate moderation.
Scrivener7
Yesterday
#80
It brought back the memory of then PM Golda Meir's response when men suggested she enact a curfew for women
Attilatheblond
20 hrs ago
#127
But, it seems, there are only two available options: leave the source, or demand
Scrivener7
Yesterday
#83
I'm not going to pretend to have a solution, but this is not just about social media spaces.
Ilikepurple
20 hrs ago
#144
I'm in no way dismissive of her concerns. And I've said elsewhere in the thread
Scrivener7
19 hrs ago
#149
The issue is that the abuse does not stop online. The piece was a plea for change not a request for personal advice
Ilikepurple
18 hrs ago
#161
I'm not dismissing anything. I never said anything about the banning children idea being outlandish, in fact
Scrivener7
18 hrs ago
#163
I'm sorry. I apologize for mixing some of your comments with another member.
Ilikepurple
17 hrs ago
#178
Boys will stop that behaviour when they find out it is not cool, when there is no one on social media, besides
Escurumbele
Yesterday
#26
Amazing to me how the victim is always held responsible because "we all know men can't help speaking ...
marble falls
Yesterday
#58
Telling girls to get off social media doesn't solve the problem and it's a bit like
spooky3
20 hrs ago
#130
Progressive Democrats don't develop lifelong issues with self-esteem and trust
Scrivener7
20 hrs ago
#138
Do you see anything being done that indicates the bad behavior is being discouraged?
Scrivener7
19 hrs ago
#145
So there are places these kids could go and be safe instead of instagram. I wish they would.
Scrivener7
19 hrs ago
#151
We could just tell kids all their parents are on instagram. That'll send them running away.
Scrivener7
19 hrs ago
#156
So what do you do to protect your fifteen year old daughter from this right now?
Scrivener7
22 hrs ago
#106
We do have that history. But I'm not seeing the will to apply it to social media.
Scrivener7
20 hrs ago
#129
I'm not sure you could make a ban on using instagram stick for a 15-year-old.
MineralMan
21 hrs ago
#123
Yes. Your response is unsatisfactory because it's amazingly naive. "Calling out" these assaults has never done anything
Scrivener7
20 hrs ago
#131
What do you suggest? Imagine you're this fifteen year old's mother. What do you do?
Scrivener7
22 hrs ago
#105
I totally agree. There should be a major protest against this. But there isn't. I can't fathom why. But there isn't.
Scrivener7
20 hrs ago
#132
This isn't a woman. This is a child. And she is being abused. I'd forbid instagram in a heartbeat.
Scrivener7
22 hrs ago
#111
Absolutely. We only get better products when we demand better products. And sometimes
Scrivener7
20 hrs ago
#133
She's not a woman. She's a child. And she's being abused. What would you do to stop that
Scrivener7
22 hrs ago
#112
"Suppose social media platforms required them to use their REAL names, and not some made-up handle."
MichMan
Yesterday
#55
The juvenile males who own and run social media are intentionally responsible for this.
Clouds Passing
Yesterday
#9
Dehumanizing hatred at such a young age seems difficult to avoid in the 21 century
Torchlight
Yesterday
#10
Women, myself included, have spent lifetimes doing that. And yet here we are.
Scrivener7
23 hrs ago
#91
OK, but I'll continue to call out sexism and misogyny when I encounter it.
MineralMan
23 hrs ago
#96
We all do that. You are not unique in that. It doesn't change anything about the abuse this child is facing.
Scrivener7
23 hrs ago
#98
Imagine she is your child. Are you going to feel like the solution is to wait until the culture
Scrivener7
23 hrs ago
#97
I share your concern about keeping youth safe from harmful online content.
Torchlight
23 hrs ago
#101
I totally agree. But in the meantime, my kid would not be allowed to go near it.
Scrivener7
23 hrs ago
#104
Do you think tens of millions of Democratic men don't stand up for women's rights? Come on! Please!
Doodley
20 hrs ago
#141
So we should all be banned from using the words male and female except for the animal kingdom? Are you kidding?
Doodley
22 hrs ago
#118
Please! I am a man who respects women. Every Thanksgiving dinner I make a speech that I want to see more women
Doodley
22 hrs ago
#120
It says "men," not some men, not certain men, not a small percentage of men, but "men."
Doodley
21 hrs ago
#125
Please! If I said "women are a problem," does that sound okay to you? I don't think that is acceptable.
Doodley
20 hrs ago
#140
She isn't a young girl. She takes offense at "female," so at least, let's not call her a "young girl."
Doodley
16 hrs ago
#184
If I said "women are the problem," would you say that was acceptable? I would not ever say that as it is offensive and
Doodley
16 hrs ago
#185
Do you know what my race is? Where I was born? If I have a disability? What my religion is? No. Please don't stereotype
Doodley
15 hrs ago
#187
I'm not sure I spoke to any of those things other than mentioning marginalization.
Ilikepurple
13 hrs ago
#191
I completely understand why many women may want to have little to do with men. Sometimes it seems like men are a blight
Fil1957
Yesterday
#44
I get that entirely. I do not crowd women or children because I don't want to cause them fear that I am one ...
marble falls
Yesterday
#69
I don't think I've ever seen you stray even into the neighborhood of mansplaining.
Scrivener7
19 hrs ago
#154
Social media is a great source of people, families to keep in touch. It's beautiful. BUT
bluestarone
Yesterday
#46
Incels think this about women, and they're pissed because they aren't getting in on anyone's count at all.
marble falls
Yesterday
#67
Even my husband gets the Proverbial Pissed Off when he hears how some men think of females.
chouchou
Yesterday
#64
But that means this fifteen year old has to endure this until the culture changes.
Scrivener7
23 hrs ago
#94
I'm speaking as someone whose only social media is DU, so I understand that I am
Scrivener7
22 hrs ago
#110
I wonder if people who grew up with this will be more careful with their own children.
Scrivener7
18 hrs ago
#165
I LOVE that idea of a flip phone for school! And I love to hear there is more healthy fear of this shit.
Scrivener7
18 hrs ago
#171
I'll be watching for those posts about your epiphanies. It sounds interesting.
Scrivener7
18 hrs ago
#170
My head is spinning a bit from this. I agree with you that the ones doing the work seem to be the ones who
Scrivener7
3 hrs ago
#195
And god forgive an action movie features a woman or person of color..only a white male can save the world
BlueWaveNeverEnd
Yesterday
#77