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cksmithy

(488 posts)
40. I read the ProPublica article
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 05:44 PM
21 hrs ago

and it describes the circumstances of two woman. A little confusing, I think one woman was 24 hours labor the other 12 hours before the courts intervened. My own personal experience for my first birthing experience 1971, 12 hours of contractions not strong enough to get to 10 cm. Baby's heart rate started to drop, so I got oxytocin, and was told to push. It took 2 hours of excruciating pain and pushing. I am pretty sure they used forceps too. My daughter, was almost 9 pounds, doctor said, she was just to large for my muscles and uterus to push her out. I was a small thin woman, now I am smaller but not thinner. If the doctors wanted me to have c-section, I probably would have said yes. My second daughter, (a pound lighter), I barely made it to the hospital in time, 3 pushes and a another beautiful baby girl.

The article, as far as I can tell, didn't detail the babies actual health conditions, that could of made a difference in the story. I don't know what the doctors do now, but after 10 hour of labor they broke the amniotic bag, didn't make a difference in dilation, then gave me oxytocin, which led to delivery.

It is truly a hard call. You could be right or wrong, but the patient, the woman giving birth, should be the one making decisions.

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a 3 hr hearing when she is in ACTIVE LABOR??!!!! mopinko Yesterday #1
Wow. That is appalling. The child is more important than the woman, no matter what. Biophilic Yesterday #2
Extreme situation. But perhaps it was the safest option for woman and child. paleotn Yesterday #4
What's extreme about this situation is forcing someone who's in active labor into a court hearing to establish legally WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #5
What about dying makes it unacceptable? paleotn Yesterday #6
People make medical decisions that result in their own deaths all the time. WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #7
And that's perfectly fine with me. paleotn 22 hrs ago #37
You're reccing your own posts? Crunchy Frog 11 hrs ago #67
So what. I didn't rec if 4 TIMES paleotn 5 hrs ago #76
Exhibit A: all those Jehovah's Witnesses who refuse blood transfusions for themselves OR their children. ShazzieB 21 hrs ago #39
The pregnant woman's profession was assisting women to deliver safely....got it? Hope22 Yesterday #9
Exactly what part of viable, at term, and in fetal distress do you not fucking understand? paleotn 22 hrs ago #38
Your last sentence... GenThePerservering 20 hrs ago #42
Tell that to the person who I responded to, not me. paleotn 20 hrs ago #43
The hearing was three hours long. Quiet Em 19 hrs ago #46
She was in labor for 12 freaking hours!!!!!! paleotn 19 hrs ago #47
and? Quiet Em 19 hrs ago #48
And? An obstetrics team is going to go to all that trouble unless it's for a good reason? paleotn 17 hrs ago #57
No, I'm not an OB-GYN and neither are you. Quiet Em 16 hrs ago #59
SO WHAT!? paleotn 5 hrs ago #75
You seem to believe you know a lot Quiet Em 5 hrs ago #77
And you know that how? paleotn 5 hrs ago #78
What crap has your partner seen many, many times? Quiet Em 4 hrs ago #79
Fine. You don't want trained, profession opinion, go treat yourself. paleotn 4 hrs ago #80
Why are you so hostile? Quiet Em 4 hrs ago #81
Ah, you're being omniscient again. paleotn 4 hrs ago #82
My son was born after 30 hrs. of labor. Whats your point? Lochloosa 19 hrs ago #50
Medical professionals didn't go to this extreme unless there was good reason. paleotn 17 hrs ago #56
12 hours of labor is NOT. VERY. LONG. Crunchy Frog 11 hrs ago #68
Post removed Post removed 5 hrs ago #73
The woman stated she had already had a life threatening complication from a C Section. Hope22 15 hrs ago #61
Yes, I'm willing to sacrifice the lives of some full term fetuses to protect women's rights to bodily autonomy. Crunchy Frog 11 hrs ago #66
It was the woman's profession, but in her own case she was not making the safest decision karynnj 20 hrs ago #44
3 prior c-sections Freddie 18 hrs ago #53
Completely agree karynnj 18 hrs ago #54
My first was a C-section buzzycrumbhunger 17 hrs ago #58
If ONLY the decision was based on the health and welfare of the mother... the existing slightlv 20 hrs ago #45
The patient in question is a doula. usedtobedemgurl 19 hrs ago #49
Because she's a doula doesn't mean she is a good doula. ToxMarz 18 hrs ago #51
Sure. Of course a judge knows better. Ok. usedtobedemgurl 14 hrs ago #62
No, I am not saying that ToxMarz 5 hrs ago #74
Ok usedtobedemgurl 4 hrs ago #83
I worked in that field. When you're in the hospital, you don't have a choice. LeftInTX Yesterday #20
It's not as rare as people think, and it doesn't matter if someone thinks it's "safest". Crunchy Frog 12 hrs ago #65
only the fetus stage Kali Yesterday #8
Yup, the kid is on his or her own. Biophilic Yesterday #19
It seems to me... GiqueCee Yesterday #34
... Solly Mack Yesterday #3
Whose body is it? dlk Yesterday #10
In states like Florida, the state has control over a woman's body erronis Yesterday #11
It's not just Florida. In almost 30 states, hospitals can override the advance directives of pregnant people. WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #14
Darwin's body. paleotn 22 hrs ago #36
Jeezus. If men gave birth, this would not be a thing. Joinfortmill Yesterday #12
Eh, men do give birth and it still is a thing, but likely because of the discrimination trans men face. WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #13
I've had four c-sections Mossfern Yesterday #15
I'm so glad you and your babies survived these! erronis Yesterday #17
Thank you for this thoughtful post. LisaM Yesterday #21
I think the trauma Mossfern Yesterday #24
I was a nurse in newborn. LeftInTX Yesterday #23
I was surprised to learn episiotomies aren't recommended anymore Sympthsical Yesterday #33
I had three kids: LeftInTX 23 hrs ago #35
Interesting. Thank you for sharing! Sympthsical 18 hrs ago #55
I have also had four c-sections. Bettie 5 hrs ago #72
Beyond appalling. Mother first, unless both can be saved & the mother's wishes unclear (& she is hlthe2b Yesterday #16
I was going to share this. Thank you so much for doing it! ... littlemissmartypants Yesterday #18
Hands off women's wombs. perverts! GreenWave Yesterday #22
Women of reproductive age need to get the hell out of Florida. This is absurd. Quiet Em Yesterday #25
I see no reason for a judge to be called into this. Ilsa Yesterday #26
If it's an emergency C-Sect, fetal distress, certain maternal conditions, unknown fetal conditions etc. LeftInTX Yesterday #28
Oh, I know, I've been there. I was relieved when Ilsa Yesterday #29
This message was self-deleted by its author MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #31
That sounds terrifying MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #32
I lived in a county that for a time had the highest Ilsa Yesterday #27
Wondering... MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #30
I read the ProPublica article cksmithy 21 hrs ago #40
Glad I posted this thread. It's good to get a reminder about just how easily so many people are willing to sign away WhiskeyGrinder 20 hrs ago #41
3 prior c-sections are a HUGE risk. But, AllyCat 18 hrs ago #52
This story really bothered me so I did some more research Quiet Em 16 hrs ago #60
This is like Rosemary's baby! C Moon 12 hrs ago #63
This is absolutely disgusting. Under no circumstances should women ever be robbed of the right to Crunchy Frog 12 hrs ago #64
Interesting to see how much anti-choice sentiment there really is here on DU. Article and the responses Crunchy Frog 11 hrs ago #69
Agree. WhiskeyGrinder 6 hrs ago #71
OMG 😳 this is insane. The hospital was so wrong in this. If it was me I would be so furious what they did TommieMommy 6 hrs ago #70
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