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ToxMarz

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51. Because she's a doula doesn't mean she is a good doula.

Sat Mar 14, 2026, 08:41 PM

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Doctors with years of medical school and residency's and certifications can be shitty doctors, sued for malpractice, lose their licenses. One would think she may be qualified but how do you know in an emergency situation when more qualified persons believe so strongly she is wrong. People aren't always as objective when it comes to personal decisions and her judgement could be clouded.

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They Didn't Want to Have C-Sections. A Judge Would Decide How They Gave Birth. [View all] WhiskeyGrinder 23 hrs ago OP

a 3 hr hearing when she is in ACTIVE LABOR??!!!! mopinko 23 hrs ago #1

Wow. That is appalling. The child is more important than the woman, no matter what. Biophilic 23 hrs ago #2

Extreme situation. But perhaps it was the safest option for woman and child. paleotn 23 hrs ago #4

What's extreme about this situation is forcing someone who's in active labor into a court hearing to establish legally WhiskeyGrinder 23 hrs ago #5

What about dying makes it unacceptable? paleotn 22 hrs ago #6

People make medical decisions that result in their own deaths all the time. WhiskeyGrinder 22 hrs ago #7

And that's perfectly fine with me. paleotn 16 hrs ago #37

You're reccing your own posts? Crunchy Frog 6 hrs ago #67

Exhibit A: all those Jehovah's Witnesses who refuse blood transfusions for themselves OR their children. ShazzieB 16 hrs ago #39

The pregnant woman's profession was assisting women to deliver safely....got it? Hope22 22 hrs ago #9

Exactly what part of viable, at term, and in fetal distress do you not fucking understand? paleotn 16 hrs ago #38

Your last sentence... GenThePerservering 15 hrs ago #42

Tell that to the person who I responded to, not me. paleotn 15 hrs ago #43

The hearing was three hours long. Quiet Em 14 hrs ago #46

She was in labor for 12 freaking hours!!!!!! paleotn 14 hrs ago #47

and? Quiet Em 14 hrs ago #48

And? An obstetrics team is going to go to all that trouble unless it's for a good reason? paleotn 12 hrs ago #57

No, I'm not an OB-GYN and neither are you. Quiet Em 11 hrs ago #59

My son was born after 30 hrs. of labor. Whats your point? Lochloosa 13 hrs ago #50

Medical professionals didn't go to this extreme unless there was good reason. paleotn 12 hrs ago #56

12 hours of labor is NOT. VERY. LONG. Crunchy Frog 5 hrs ago #68

The woman stated she had already had a life threatening complication from a C Section. Hope22 10 hrs ago #61

Yes, I'm willing to sacrifice the lives of some full term fetuses to protect women's rights to bodily autonomy. Crunchy Frog 6 hrs ago #66

It was the woman's profession, but in her own case she was not making the safest decision karynnj 15 hrs ago #44

3 prior c-sections Freddie 13 hrs ago #53

Completely agree karynnj 12 hrs ago #54

My first was a C-section buzzycrumbhunger 12 hrs ago #58

If ONLY the decision was based on the health and welfare of the mother... the existing slightlv 14 hrs ago #45

The patient in question is a doula. usedtobedemgurl 13 hrs ago #49

Because she's a doula doesn't mean she is a good doula. ToxMarz 13 hrs ago #51

Sure. Of course a judge knows better. Ok. usedtobedemgurl 8 hrs ago #62

I worked in that field. When you're in the hospital, you don't have a choice. LeftInTX 21 hrs ago #20

It's not as rare as people think, and it doesn't matter if someone thinks it's "safest". Crunchy Frog 6 hrs ago #65

only the fetus stage Kali 22 hrs ago #8

Yup, the kid is on his or her own. Biophilic 21 hrs ago #19

It seems to me... GiqueCee 18 hrs ago #34

... Solly Mack 23 hrs ago #3

Whose body is it? dlk 22 hrs ago #10

In states like Florida, the state has control over a woman's body erronis 22 hrs ago #11

It's not just Florida. In almost 30 states, hospitals can override the advance directives of pregnant people. WhiskeyGrinder 22 hrs ago #14

Darwin's body. paleotn 16 hrs ago #36

Jeezus. If men gave birth, this would not be a thing. Joinfortmill 22 hrs ago #12

Eh, men do give birth and it still is a thing, but likely because of the discrimination trans men face. WhiskeyGrinder 22 hrs ago #13

I've had four c-sections Mossfern 22 hrs ago #15

I'm so glad you and your babies survived these! erronis 22 hrs ago #17

Thank you for this thoughtful post. LisaM 21 hrs ago #21

I think the trauma Mossfern 21 hrs ago #24

I was a nurse in newborn. LeftInTX 21 hrs ago #23

I was surprised to learn episiotomies aren't recommended anymore Sympthsical 18 hrs ago #33

I had three kids: LeftInTX 17 hrs ago #35

Interesting. Thank you for sharing! Sympthsical 12 hrs ago #55

I have also had four c-sections. Bettie 6 min ago #72

Beyond appalling. Mother first, unless both can be saved & the mother's wishes unclear (& she is hlthe2b 22 hrs ago #16

I was going to share this. Thank you so much for doing it! ... littlemissmartypants 21 hrs ago #18

Hands off women's wombs. perverts! GreenWave 21 hrs ago #22

Women of reproductive age need to get the hell out of Florida. This is absurd. Quiet Em 20 hrs ago #25

I see no reason for a judge to be called into this. Ilsa 20 hrs ago #26

If it's an emergency C-Sect, fetal distress, certain maternal conditions, unknown fetal conditions etc. LeftInTX 19 hrs ago #28

Oh, I know, I've been there. I was relieved when Ilsa 19 hrs ago #29

This message was self-deleted by its author MorbidButterflyTat 18 hrs ago #31

That sounds terrifying MorbidButterflyTat 18 hrs ago #32

I lived in a county that for a time had the highest Ilsa 20 hrs ago #27

Wondering... MorbidButterflyTat 19 hrs ago #30

I read the ProPublica article cksmithy 16 hrs ago #40

Glad I posted this thread. It's good to get a reminder about just how easily so many people are willing to sign away WhiskeyGrinder 15 hrs ago #41

3 prior c-sections are a HUGE risk. But, AllyCat 13 hrs ago #52

This story really bothered me so I did some more research Quiet Em 10 hrs ago #60

This is like Rosemary's baby! C Moon 7 hrs ago #63

This is absolutely disgusting. Under no circumstances should women ever be robbed of the right to Crunchy Frog 6 hrs ago #64

Interesting to see how much anti-choice sentiment there really is here on DU. Article and the responses Crunchy Frog 5 hrs ago #69

Agree. WhiskeyGrinder 31 min ago #71

OMG 😳 this is insane. The hospital was so wrong in this. If it was me I would be so furious what they did TommieMommy 33 min ago #70