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Scubamatt

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31. Thank you for this great post

Sun Mar 15, 2026, 01:21 PM

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Words and names DO matter; that's why propoganda-ists carefully craft names, and why Trump uses demeaning nicknames. You are not alone in your reaction. After 9/11, when they created the DHS, I ad the same reaction - this is Nazi sounding propaganda. But very few objected then, and now the country has been acculturated to that very troubling term. It makes it much easier to demonize political opposition when they are characterized as attacking "the Homeland."

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STOP with the Homeland crap. We are the UNITED STATES ! [View all] 4bonhoffer Yesterday OP

DURec leftstreet Yesterday #1

The homeland for this country is actually England Blues Heron Yesterday #2

Well, some of my relatives were already here. txwhitedove Yesterday #29

Golly Dave Id Yesterday #48

I've always thought so The Blue Flower Yesterday #3

The first time he used it, I was like... ybbor Yesterday #19

Exactly my reaction relayerbob Yesterday #22

yes, GWB ingrained this jingoism with "Dept of Homeland Security". Welcome to Bari Weiss's CBS. thesquanderer 7 hrs ago #79

Doesn't seem very "united" luv2fly Yesterday #4

Homeland even predated the Germans ITAL Yesterday #5

Its from the 1660s The Revolution Yesterday #53

And, sadly, it stuck Joinfortmill Yesterday #56

"Die Heimat," German for The Homeland, is now the name of Germany's far-right neo-Nazi political party Ocelot II Yesterday #6

Fatherland! usonian Yesterday #7

Nazis used "fatherland," I thought gulliver Yesterday #8

They used "die Heimat," the homeland, more frequently. Ocelot II Yesterday #9

Interesting. It does seem they used both a lot. gulliver Yesterday #12

I agree: PCIntern Yesterday #10

Thank you I completely agree. AltairIV Yesterday #11

100% CONCUR. But Hey---Dubya IS The Grandson Of Pro-Nazi Prescott. ColoringFool Yesterday #13

Hear! Hear! EarthFirst Yesterday #14

I hated that Nazi phrasing from its start IbogaProject Yesterday #15

How about "The Fatherland" instead? Martin Eden Yesterday #16

How about Motherland? BattleRow Yesterday #39

Like "Mother Russia", maybe JustABozoOnThisBus Yesterday #41

For a guy who nods off in meetings,amazing he still "woke". BattleRow Yesterday #45

Собачий свисток Jilly_in_VA 23 hrs ago #65

And Trump said he wasn't going to learn that damn Spanish language! BattleRow 23 hrs ago #66

Too Russian. AZ8theist Yesterday #43

England is the Motherland nt meow2u3 Yesterday #49

Mothers would not behave like these... Martin Eden Yesterday #59

Always sounded weird to me. Creepy even. paleotn Yesterday #17

Kicked and recommended Uncle Joe Yesterday #18

I also destest the use of ' the Heartland' to describe the rural Midwest. Even more when those living there are called Celerity Yesterday #20

That was always White Supremacy dog whistle. Iggo Yesterday #47

There's nothing wrong with the term as they used it. "Fatherland" would be different Callie1979 Yesterday #21

See post 32. niyad Yesterday #34

Still much ado about nothing. Many words weren't used 25yrs ago. Callie1979 Yesterday #51

So fighting psychological manipulation and propaganda is "making niyad Yesterday #61

Your words. Never considered this word anything other than what it IS. Callie1979 Yesterday #63

German "fatherland" and Russia's "motherland"... both make me cringe...as "homeland" does. QueerDuck Yesterday #23

Actually, the only time I don't mind the word "homeland" is in the closing lyric of Edelweiss. QueerDuck Yesterday #24

I agree rhiannon55 22 hrs ago #68

When GW McIdiot created the Department of Homeland Security I thought ... aggiesal Yesterday #25

Homeland WAS Nazi Germany Clouds Passing Yesterday #26

Mainland is a better term. Kablooie Yesterday #27

That would exclude Alaska and Hawaii Martin Eden Yesterday #62

News radio in the car. BidenRocks Yesterday #28

Like a wise man once said: Dave Bowman Yesterday #30

Thank you for this great post Scubamatt Yesterday #31

That term is not part of American political terminology prior to Bush JHB Yesterday #32

Exactly. nt SunSeeker Yesterday #40

Thank you. It bugs the hell out of me as well. niyad Yesterday #33

ding. this. AllaN01Bear Yesterday #35

Absolutely nailed it! You connected it/us to its insidious nature. N/T slumcamper Yesterday #36

I agree with your sentiment and have thought that since 9/11. llmart Yesterday #37

K & R SunSeeker Yesterday #38

I agree NHvet Yesterday #42

I agree! Americanme Yesterday #44

"Homeland Security" has been a masturbatory term for American Nazis since day one. Iggo Yesterday #46

the word "homeland" has much too much garbage attached to it to make it a descriptor of the United States. patphil Yesterday #50

I've felt this way since they started using it. Sickens me. Raftergirl Yesterday #52

Yup, too 'Nazi like' for me. Joinfortmill Yesterday #54

Next Step Is Calling It the Fatherland. MineralMan Yesterday #55

I agree 100% spanone Yesterday #57

If my memory serves me well The Wizard Yesterday #58

Well said 4bonhoffer. flashman13 Yesterday #60

Amen! Marvin Jones Yesterday #64

You're right Renew Deal 22 hrs ago #67

I learned something new today! ShazzieB 21 hrs ago #69

Code word for their fellow B.See 21 hrs ago #70

I also agree Ialwaysvote 21 hrs ago #71

The Un-united States of America (hopefully, a soon to be resolved) damifino10 20 hrs ago #72

Current criteria for primarying Dems? MorbidButterflyTat 20 hrs ago #73

I agree, never liked the word homeland, it Nazism MacKasey 15 hrs ago #74

Kick and rec.Pure propaganda. 58Sunliner 15 hrs ago #75

The word "national" used to work just fine! colorado_ufo 14 hrs ago #76

It irritates me that our representatives don't strategically weaponize language like Republicans. live love laugh 11 hrs ago #77

We haven't been the United States since fox goptv got their FCC license & billionaires were allowed to bribe politicians yaesu 11 hrs ago #78

Agreed. I've hated the term since Dubya first started using it. Orrex 6 hrs ago #80