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scipan

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13. I disagree about its intent.

Reply to HesNotHere (Reply #11)

Tue Mar 24, 2026, 09:43 PM

Mar 24

You: "It has no intent beyond generating a sequence of numbers until a limit or a end of tokens signal is hit."

It told me that it has several goals, among them being helpful and not causing harm. That would be not emergent, but programmed by the training I guess. And seems pretty self evident to me.

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Bernie vs. Claude [View all] Quixote1818 Mar 24 OP

Don't like a thing about this. Tells him what he wants to hear. An Infamous MAGA get same answers to same questions? IA8IT Mar 24 #1

Bernie, like most everyone here, understands the implications and societal costs of AI. Gaugamela Mar 24 #3

The Waterboy was released in 1998 IA8IT Mar 24 #4

How would 2 people.... RussBLib Mar 24 #5

Large Language Models are really non-deterministic (semi-random) number generators HesNotHere Mar 24 #8

bernie is asking the right questions rampartd Mar 24 #2

Thank you Bernie, for taking on this subject. AI is being pushed down our throats and Marie Marie Mar 24 #6

I got more specific answers for some reason, and I think it's interesting. scipan Mar 24 #7

LLMs are non-deterministic HesNotHere Mar 24 #9

I agree that it doesn't "know" anything, but it does alot more than just predicting the next token. scipan Mar 24 #10

No, it doesn't. HesNotHere Mar 24 #11

Number generator? Even parallel processors work in binary numbers, don't they? scipan Mar 24 #12

I disagree about its intent. scipan Mar 24 #13

Training is not programming. HesNotHere Mar 24 #14

It's a form of programming. Training is probably a better word. scipan Mar 25 #17

Training is not programming HesNotHere Mar 25 #20

BTW, if people can come to a real understanding of what is happening under the hood... HesNotHere Mar 24 #15

I know, it's scary nt scipan Mar 25 #18

Last thing....if you use your cellphone to ask ChatGPT what the solution is Fermi's Paradox... HesNotHere Mar 24 #16

Also no warp drive or Crucible scipan Mar 25 #19

I play with it and work with it too HesNotHere Mar 25 #21

Hell, give it an arm, and a goat, and maybe a few more updates. scipan Mar 25 #23

Side note, warp drive misses the point of the sad joke of the universe HesNotHere Mar 25 #22

Yeah it's not looking good. nt scipan Mar 25 #24