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In reply to the discussion: About Trump sitting in the Supreme Court hearing [View all]LetMyPeopleVote
(179,885 posts)54. MaddowBlog-Trump's attendance at the Supreme Court's birthright citizenship arguments won't help his case
If his radical gambit is likely to lose, why bother with an unprecedented presidential appearance at the high court? There are two prevailing explanations.
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https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/why-trump-attending-supreme-court-birthright-citizenship-arguments
Not surprisingly, Trumps radical gambit has struggled in the courts, which relied on generations worth of legal precedent, but the Supreme Court nevertheless agreed to hear the case. Ahead of Wednesdays oral arguments, the president decided to do something his predecessors never did. MS NOW reported:
By way of explanation, the president told reporters on Tuesday that he intended to sit in on oral arguments because I have listened to this argument for so long. (A day later, Im not entirely sure what that was supposed to mean.)....
So why bother with an unprecedented presidential appearance at the high court? There are two prevailing explanations though theyre not mutually exclusive, and both could be true.
The first is that this is part of a ham-fisted intimidation campaign: By literally showing up in person, its possible that Trump, who appointed a third of the courts justices, thinks he can apply extra pressure to those who will decide the cases fate.
If this is the goal, the president is likely to be disappointed. Unlike congressional Republicans, justices dont want to be seen as obedient White House loyalists, and its easy to imagine Trumps stunt backfiring.
The other theory is that Trump recognizes the fact that the Supreme Court wont let him rewrite constitutional law through an executive order, so he went to oral arguments as a political tactic intended to deliver an anti-immigrant message which the White House sees as more politically salient than other issues that are dominating the public conversation, such as the war with Iran and high gas prices.
The big thing for Trump is to be seen putting up a fight, Politico noted. This policy always a Hail Mary from a legal perspective is as much about signaling to the presidents base as it is a serious attempt to change the law.
Whatever the explanation, if the president expects his order to be upheld, he probably ought to start lowering his expectations. Watch this space.
President Donald Trump will be watching oral arguments today as the Supreme Court weighs whether the president holds the power to end birthright citizenship. [ ]
Trumps presence at the court is significant. He will be the first known sitting U.S. president to attend oral arguments before the high court, according to the Supreme Court Historical Society.
By way of explanation, the president told reporters on Tuesday that he intended to sit in on oral arguments because I have listened to this argument for so long. (A day later, Im not entirely sure what that was supposed to mean.)....
So why bother with an unprecedented presidential appearance at the high court? There are two prevailing explanations though theyre not mutually exclusive, and both could be true.
The first is that this is part of a ham-fisted intimidation campaign: By literally showing up in person, its possible that Trump, who appointed a third of the courts justices, thinks he can apply extra pressure to those who will decide the cases fate.
If this is the goal, the president is likely to be disappointed. Unlike congressional Republicans, justices dont want to be seen as obedient White House loyalists, and its easy to imagine Trumps stunt backfiring.
The other theory is that Trump recognizes the fact that the Supreme Court wont let him rewrite constitutional law through an executive order, so he went to oral arguments as a political tactic intended to deliver an anti-immigrant message which the White House sees as more politically salient than other issues that are dominating the public conversation, such as the war with Iran and high gas prices.
The big thing for Trump is to be seen putting up a fight, Politico noted. This policy always a Hail Mary from a legal perspective is as much about signaling to the presidents base as it is a serious attempt to change the law.
Whatever the explanation, if the president expects his order to be upheld, he probably ought to start lowering his expectations. Watch this space.
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Yup, based on his history, courtrooms seem to make all kinds of things escape from his ass.
Marie Marie
22 hrs ago
#61
True, but rump don't scare me...he's just a demented loudmouthed fool...he can't fire the Supremes (or Gladys Knight)...
wcmagumba
Yesterday
#2
I wouldn't doubt for a second that he has information on the conservative Supremes.
Baitball Blogger
Yesterday
#14
Right. He imagines it will work at the court, but seems likelier to backfire.
Easterncedar
Yesterday
#4
When Trump dissed Jeb Bush's wife, if Bush had spun around, went over and got all up in Trump's grill, and
flashman13
Yesterday
#47
He'll probably crap himself during the proceedings like he did at his own trial...
johnnyplankton
Yesterday
#8
Depends (pun not intended) on if the stink from a random fart or loaded diaper reaches the bench.
3Hotdogs
Yesterday
#17
Unfortunately, camera not allowed in the court. But imagine a 6:00 news video of him falling asleep
3Hotdogs
Yesterday
#18
I agree. He's going to sit there and cast the "evil eye" on his six fascist puppets.
MLWR
Yesterday
#21
He wants to see what he paid for - the judges "earning" their positions due to his "largess".
Wonder Why
Yesterday
#32
I doubt they will remove him, but they won't hold the hearing for him. I think he is intentionally cutting it close by
33taw
Yesterday
#40
It's a mobster move. Wonder how Uncle Thomas will react if he wants to
allegorical oracle
Yesterday
#41
MaddowBlog-Trump's attendance at the Supreme Court's birthright citizenship arguments won't help his case
LetMyPeopleVote
Yesterday
#54
I agree. I think it will either backfire on him or it won't make a difference.
LeftInTX
22 hrs ago
#63
I doubt they are intimidated in the slightest by the sleepy Orange Presence.
Martin68
21 hrs ago
#67
He's been doing it his whole life. On display with HRC debates. He's a fucking criminal mob boss. Period.
Evolve Dammit
20 hrs ago
#71
One of his favorite moves, as we've seen in the past. (EDIT: As others have already mentioned!)
Grokenstein
14 hrs ago
#77