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54. MaddowBlog-Trump's attendance at the Supreme Court's birthright citizenship arguments won't help his case
Wed Apr 1, 2026, 12:38 PM
Yesterday

If his radical gambit is likely to lose, why bother with an unprecedented presidential appearance at the high court? There are two prevailing explanations.



https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/why-trump-attending-supreme-court-birthright-citizenship-arguments

Not surprisingly, Trump’s radical gambit has struggled in the courts, which relied on generations’ worth of legal precedent, but the Supreme Court nevertheless agreed to hear the case. Ahead of Wednesday’s oral arguments, the president decided to do something his predecessors never did. MS NOW reported:

President Donald Trump will be watching oral arguments today as the Supreme Court weighs whether the president holds the power to end birthright citizenship. […]

Trump’s presence at the court is significant. He will be the first known sitting U.S. president to attend oral arguments before the high court, according to the Supreme Court Historical Society.


By way of explanation, the president told reporters on Tuesday that he intended to sit in on oral arguments “because I have listened to this argument for so long.” (A day later, I’m not entirely sure what that was supposed to mean.)....

So why bother with an unprecedented presidential appearance at the high court? There are two prevailing explanations — though they’re not mutually exclusive, and both could be true.

The first is that this is part of a ham-fisted intimidation campaign: By literally showing up in person, it’s possible that Trump, who appointed a third of the court’s justices, thinks he can apply extra pressure to those who will decide the case’s fate.

If this is the goal, the president is likely to be disappointed. Unlike congressional Republicans, justices don’t want to be seen as obedient White House loyalists, and it’s easy to imagine Trump’s stunt backfiring.

The other theory is that Trump recognizes the fact that the Supreme Court won’t let him rewrite constitutional law through an executive order, so he went to oral arguments as a political tactic intended to deliver an anti-immigrant message — which the White House sees as more politically salient than other issues that are dominating the public conversation, such as the war with Iran and high gas prices.

“The big thing for Trump is to be seen putting up a fight,” Politico noted. “This policy — always a Hail Mary from a legal perspective — is as much about signaling to the president’s base as it is a serious attempt to change the law.”

Whatever the explanation, if the president expects his order to be upheld, he probably ought to start lowering his expectations. Watch this space.

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Meh, sleeping doesn't intimidate. gab13by13 Yesterday #1
Agreed. But wearing a shit full diaper is. Ray Bruns Yesterday #24
Yup, based on his history, courtrooms seem to make all kinds of things escape from his ass. Marie Marie 22 hrs ago #61
True, but rump don't scare me...he's just a demented loudmouthed fool...he can't fire the Supremes (or Gladys Knight)... wcmagumba Yesterday #2
I wouldn't doubt for a second that he has information on the conservative Supremes. Baitball Blogger Yesterday #14
I'd say no "probably' about it. calimary Yesterday #29
Almost irrelevant as our system makes impeachment nearly impossible. IbogaProject 23 hrs ago #59
Yes, it's glaringly obvious that's what he's doing. GoCubsGo Yesterday #3
Right. He imagines it will work at the court, but seems likelier to backfire. Easterncedar Yesterday #4
Still one of my all-time "if only" moments. TheRickles Yesterday #10
No. Had she done that, the spin would have been, "Look. She can't handle niyad Yesterday #30
You're right MustLoveBeagles Yesterday #35
I'm with you MurrayDelph Yesterday #31
Just a stern "Return to your podium, Donald!" would have sufficed. CTyankee 22 hrs ago #65
Indeed! It was one of those....... MyOwnPeace 19 hrs ago #73
What if she had paused to ask for air freshener? wnylib 19 hrs ago #74
That was the responsiblity of the voters. 33taw Yesterday #37
Agree orangecrush Yesterday #45
When Trump dissed Jeb Bush's wife, if Bush had spun around, went over and got all up in Trump's grill, and flashman13 Yesterday #47
I would have hoped she would turn around and say, colorado_ufo 22 hrs ago #62
The best would have been for her popsdenver 16 hrs ago #76
Lets hope a few will turn on him. mucifer Yesterday #5
It's more likely they'll cave. SergeStorms Yesterday #13
Hard to intimidate someone with a lifetime appointment. onenote 21 hrs ago #66
If John Roberts had a conscience, he would be mortified. He doesn't. Chasstev365 Yesterday #6
Toxic hovering is what Trump did to Clinton on the stage during the debate CousinIT Yesterday #7
That's immediately what came to my mind, too. evolves 20 hrs ago #72
He'll probably crap himself during the proceedings like he did at his own trial... johnnyplankton Yesterday #8
Depends (pun not intended) on if the stink from a random fart or loaded diaper reaches the bench. 3Hotdogs Yesterday #17
;-{) Side-Eye Goonch Yesterday #9
Like a scene out of The Godfather movie. Irish_Dem Yesterday #11
Tony Soprano got a lot of mileage out of this one FakeNoose Yesterday #25
LOL, he Vincenzo Pentangeli-ed the Supreme Court Prairie Gates Yesterday #52
Yep this is the scene. Irish_Dem Yesterday #56
He tried a variation of it during a debate with Hillary Ilsa Yesterday #12
Epstein chicago guy Yesterday #15
People have tried that with me: PCIntern Yesterday #16
Same orangecrush Yesterday #44
Yes! Straw Man 23 hrs ago #60
I usually leave the mother fucker part off though. littlemissmartypants 12 hrs ago #81
Unfortunately, camera not allowed in the court. But imagine a 6:00 news video of him falling asleep 3Hotdogs Yesterday #18
He was originally going to join the Jan. 6 insurrectionists at the Capitol. eShirl Yesterday #19
He absolutely can and does dominate SCOTUS. ananda Yesterday #22
You've come close to touching on my first feeling slightlv Yesterday #53
Yes! This is what he did with the debate evemac Yesterday #20
I agree. He's going to sit there and cast the "evil eye" on his six fascist puppets. MLWR Yesterday #21
No he's not. He will be asleep in ten minutes. Ray Bruns Yesterday #26
" He will be asleep in ten minutes. " AverageOldGuy Yesterday #34
Exactly Farmer-Rick Yesterday #36
This was my first thought. TNNurse Yesterday #23
Obviously he wants to intimidate them. Ocelot II Yesterday #27
Some of the Supremes might cave Seinan Sensei 19 hrs ago #75
One thing's for sure he's gonna stink up the chamber Blue Owl Yesterday #28
He wants to see what he paid for - the judges "earning" their positions due to his "largess". Wonder Why Yesterday #32
9:40 AM EDST Trump enroute to SCOTUS AverageOldGuy Yesterday #33
Or will he make a big stink when he is too late? CapnSteve Yesterday #38
I doubt they will remove him, but they won't hold the hearing for him. I think he is intentionally cutting it close by 33taw Yesterday #40
This is unprecedented MustLoveBeagles Yesterday #39
It's a mobster move. Wonder how Uncle Thomas will react if he wants to allegorical oracle Yesterday #41
TV Series The Wire bmichaelh Yesterday #42
It's exactly what he did to Hillary orangecrush Yesterday #43
OMG did I HATE him for that! calimary 12 hrs ago #79
It was optics orangecrush 5 hrs ago #82
He's there to issue an executive odor, right on the spot. usonian Yesterday #46
His presence is an April Fools Day joke. milestogo Yesterday #48
This should be one of those 15 minute decisions. bluestarone Yesterday #49
I'll never understand Scubamatt Yesterday #50
Some of 'em are still stuck trying to figure it out. calimary 12 hrs ago #80
Zzzzzzzzzzz . . . . no_hypocrisy Yesterday #51
MaddowBlog-Trump's attendance at the Supreme Court's birthright citizenship arguments won't help his case LetMyPeopleVote Yesterday #54
"...Piggy told reporters on Tuesday MorbidButterflyTat 22 hrs ago #64
I agree with this analysis. ShazzieB 21 hrs ago #68
Kiddie pool Maj. Dude Yesterday #55
He is use to be in a court room Smackdown2019 Yesterday #57
KKK tactics. Mblaze 23 hrs ago #58
I agree. I think it will either backfire on him or it won't make a difference. LeftInTX 22 hrs ago #63
I doubt they are intimidated in the slightest by the sleepy Orange Presence. Martin68 21 hrs ago #67
Yeah, of course, but it's not going to work. themaguffin 20 hrs ago #69
He's not intimidating anymore. marble falls 20 hrs ago #70
He's been doing it his whole life. On display with HRC debates. He's a fucking criminal mob boss. Period. Evolve Dammit 20 hrs ago #71
One of his favorite moves, as we've seen in the past. (EDIT: As others have already mentioned!) Grokenstein 14 hrs ago #77
He left suddenly because his ass felt too wet... Jack Valentino 14 hrs ago #78
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