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wnylib

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42. Yes, oil is one reason. But he could not say that at first
Thu Apr 9, 2026, 04:36 PM
20 hrs ago

because he knew that people would object to the attack based on getting oil that we, as a country, don't need. He could not openly admit that he wanted it for himself. So he made up a bunch of reasons at first.

There was another reason for the war that he is not talking about. It coincides with Netanyahu's M.E. plans. Trump wants a luxury resort in Gaza. So he was willing to give Netanyahu a green light to completely raze Gaza. But, since Hamas was supported by Iran and Hezbollah, Trump's Gaza resort would always be threatened by terrorism from both. Israel would always be threatened by both.

So Trump and Netanyahu teamed up to eliminate Iran and Hezbollah as threats. You are right about Trump's attitude. In his usual arrogance, Trump thought that an attack on Iran would be a cake walk.

Iran is a bad actor on the world stage, to its own people and its neighbors. But trying to take over the country the way that Trump and Hegseth are doing is insane. If they genuinely wanted to stop Iran from getting nukes, and wanted regime change for the Iranian people, they should have consulted allies and developed a coalition. They should also have consulted intel agencies and developed a. better strategy based on intel about Iran's capabilities.

But, by going it alone, Trump felt that he could have sole claim to the oil. Maybe that was a deal between him and Netanyahu. Trump would help him in return for getting the oil for himself.

Trump tried the shock and awe method, aka "Blitzkrieg" to Nazis. If warned about Hormuz getting closed by Iran, I am betting that he assumed that other nations would step into the fight in order to free up Hormuz. That's why he is so pissed off at NATO nations. They have not reacted the way he anticipated (assumed).

Two huge errors in judgment. 1. Assuming he could conquer Iran by brute force. 2. Not making the security of Hormuz a top priority because he assumed that other nations would have to join his war in order to secure Hormuz themselves.

So he comes across as a blundering fool.



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LBJ, maybe? JoseBalow Yesterday #1
They say he had a big one Dan Yesterday #3
LBJ ordering pants BaronChocula 13 hrs ago #55
That's just speculation EYESORE 9001 Yesterday #4
Only some comically-oversized Florsheims could pull that off Blue Owl Yesterday #2
According to Stormy Daniels, there's not much there Grim Chieftain 23 hrs ago #15
America elected the lowest common denominator to office Torchlight Yesterday #5
Well said BlueWaveNeverEnd Yesterday #6
You've made a good case for this being the worst in terms of absurdity, if not... NNadir 23 hrs ago #7
I'm going to have to defend Kennedy here. In 1960 the Cold Wr was at it's height and every flashman13 21 hrs ago #28
I agree with your second paragraph. I hold the Vienna summit... NNadir 20 hrs ago #41
We certainly have a differing view on historical events. I'll leave it at that. flashman13 19 hrs ago #46
Agreed, popsdenver 17 hrs ago #52
Well this Iran war is the most stupid thing in recent history. LeftInTX 21 hrs ago #36
This vile and horrible administration wouldn't have happened if not for Fox. Initech 23 hrs ago #8
According to Stormy Daniels, it would be most difficult if not impossible for him to do. mdbl 23 hrs ago #9
I don't think Trump is that flexible Fiendish Thingy 23 hrs ago #10
No, but Franklin Pierce had an extensive groin injury from a saddle horn during a battle Uncle Joe 23 hrs ago #11
;-{) Dethroned Goonch 23 hrs ago #12
He did articulate a reason: he and some of his cronies mwmisses4289 23 hrs ago #13
Yes, oil is one reason. But he could not say that at first wnylib 20 hrs ago #42
You state it well LeftInTX 20 hrs ago #43
Andrew Johnson did a bad job reading the room Johonny 23 hrs ago #14
Yes. ShazzieB 23 hrs ago #16
Certainly none who has tried to swing his little nubbin around Warpy 23 hrs ago #17
It's almost as though everything he does... Orrex 22 hrs ago #18
You have found it, Ocelot! It is the one thing Trump is actually really, really good at! Fucking up. n/t PatrickforB 22 hrs ago #19
No not as immediately. Geebus, what is it 5 weeks? underpants 22 hrs ago #20
Iraq was a pretty immense debacle. BannonsLiver 22 hrs ago #21
He would have to cut it off stage left 22 hrs ago #22
Truman dropped a nuclear bomb on civilians - twice. Mblaze 22 hrs ago #23
Truman never had any regrets. He believed that ending the war spared about 100,000 US troops. mobeau69 20 hrs ago #44
I can understand that. Mblaze 19 hrs ago #48
According to the common Trump-slurpers, he's restored our rightful place of respect in the world and NBachers 22 hrs ago #24
I don't think so! And it couldn't happen to a more deserving POS LymphocyteLover 21 hrs ago #25
Really quite a feat to step on that tiny mushroom! LymphocyteLover 21 hrs ago #26
Exactly bdamomma 21 hrs ago #35
As somebody said, it's one thing to step on your own dick, it's another thing to jump up and down on it Walleye 21 hrs ago #27
What dick? Dave Bowman 21 hrs ago #29
It's only dick stepping if it isn't exactly what you want to do. BlueTsunami2018 21 hrs ago #30
Just to add: Bush I casued the FIRST iraq debacle JHB 21 hrs ago #31
Obama wore a tan suit. BHDem53 21 hrs ago #32
Brilliant! Talitha 21 hrs ago #37
The Benefit of this War is Putin's Win pioche4 21 hrs ago #33
Despite having such a tiny mushroom WheelWalker 21 hrs ago #34
Miracles in modern electron microscopes make this possible for him. GreenWave 20 hrs ago #38
No president ever had the challenge of having such a small dick to step on. No way he can see it over his enormous belly Martin68 20 hrs ago #39
A not so tiny hiney,and a teeny weeny. BattleRow 18 hrs ago #49
Our country has been totally fucked by SCOTUS decisions over the years. ananda 20 hrs ago #40
Shrub and his attacking Wednesdays 20 hrs ago #45
I blame a lot of it on the apprentice show Tree Lady 19 hrs ago #47
They harped about the keystrokes pipeline using fox bs endlessly. mobeau69 18 hrs ago #50
Shart of the deal IronLionZion 18 hrs ago #51
It would be one thing if he stepped on his own dick Javaman 17 hrs ago #53
"Galactically stupid" sums it up quite well! KY_EnviroGuy 15 hrs ago #54
Galactically Stupid BunnyMcGee 13 hrs ago #56
... and none of those presidents you named, could actually STEP on their dick Jack Valentino 13 hrs ago #57
I think Shady Vance and Pete Kegsbreath are going to go through some things, maybe along with Little Marco COL Mustard 6 hrs ago #58
And then declared victory. TheRickles 6 hrs ago #59
No, but considering Aviation Pro 1 hr ago #60
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