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EdmondDantes_

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31. My point is I don't think simply giving women tools is enough
Tue Apr 14, 2026, 06:31 PM
5 hrs ago

Sure you could live in women only housing and never leave or let a man in. You could wear a chastity belt or the anti rape condom. But unless every woman does this, you aren't fixing the problem and you're fundamentally only shifting the odds onto someone else.

Likewise having a rape whistle or pepper spray is great, but the majority of attacks are from people known to the victim. Are you carrying your pepper spray in hand while walking with a male friend? What about with a partner?

On the other hand this ad campaign cut the incidents of rape. That suggests it's not mythical for men to be better.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/british-columbia/dont-be-that-guy-ad-campaign-cuts-vancouver-sex-assaults-by-10-per-cent-in-2011/article1359241/

And that research shows men are way more likely to say they would commit rape if you didn't use the word rape that suggests education about what rape is would be effective.

https://www.salon.com/2015/01/15/the_ugly_truth_about_sexual_assault_more_men_admit_to_it_if_you_dont_call_it_rape/

I get the appeal of short term things, but it's a case of the most effective short term tools women can use, aren't effective in the most likely times to need them.

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Most sexual assaults are not stranger abductions. yardwork 7 hrs ago #1
Yes, taught to be nice is abig one. Figarosmom 7 hrs ago #4
Exactly! yardwork 7 hrs ago #5
You will notice that I did not limit my OP to sexual assaults only. niyad 5 hrs ago #20
Yes more women are abused by someone thwy trust Lifeafter70 5 hrs ago #24
Times change and we live in a world of privacy violations jfz9580m 1 hr ago #38
When my daughter was 12 Figarosmom 7 hrs ago #2
Brava! Congrats to her! You must be very proud of her! SheltieLover 7 hrs ago #6
Sure am!😊 Figarosmom 7 hrs ago #13
Excellent! I wish all parents did this. niyad 5 hrs ago #19
Same here. My daughter was a black belt at age 13. Irish_Dem 5 hrs ago #26
Yeah funny how that works, the politeness factor. Figarosmom 2 hrs ago #36
I taught taekwondo to children and adults oberle 5 hrs ago #29
I had friends that trained Figarosmom 2 hrs ago #35
Thank you for all that you have done. niyad 2 hrs ago #37
Worry more about partners, "friends," and creepy bosses, Ocelot II 7 hrs ago #3
Yes! SheltieLover 7 hrs ago #7
You will notice that I did not limit my OP to sexual assaults only. niyad 5 hrs ago #21
I don't remember what SING stands for LearnedHand 7 hrs ago #8
I think it's Solar plexus, Insole, Nose, Groin EdmondDantes_ 7 hrs ago #11
Thanks! LearnedHand 7 hrs ago #12
Watch Miss Congeniality! MorbidButterflyTat 5 hrs ago #25
That's where i first learned about it lol LearnedHand 3 hrs ago #33
I like that dye idea, like in money robbed from a bank EdmondDantes_ 7 hrs ago #9
But Swalwell knew what was right and wrong JI7 6 hrs ago #15
Not enough to not be an abuser EdmondDantes_ 6 hrs ago #16
Teaching men and boys not to be abusers is great. How long is that niyad 5 hrs ago #18
My fantasy is that men are barred from owning any weapon. Irish_Dem 5 hrs ago #27
Sadly, the way things are going in this misogynist, patriarchal niyad 5 hrs ago #28
Yes women's rights are going by the wayside. Irish_Dem 5 hrs ago #30
A man that SA women I_UndergroundPanther 1 hr ago #42
My point is I don't think simply giving women tools is enough EdmondDantes_ 5 hrs ago #31
All very interesting. But PLEASE notice that I specifically mentioned niyad 4 hrs ago #32
cell phones. mopinko 7 hrs ago #10
The biggest threats are those we know and agree to see JI7 6 hrs ago #14
??? niyad 6 hrs ago #17
Women need to be empowered to fight back. hamsterjill 5 hrs ago #22
Looking self-assured and aware certainly helps. In a similar discussion niyad 5 hrs ago #23
If you find yourself in a bad situation, wnylib 3 hrs ago #34
Yes, trust your instincts! I am so very glad that you did exactly that, niyad 1 hr ago #39
Yikes 😳 MustLoveBeagles 1 hr ago #40
So am I. It seems even scarier to me now that I'm older and wnylib 1 hr ago #41
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