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AverageOldGuy

(3,976 posts)
17. It's not just Trump's attack on the Pope
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 05:10 PM
10 hrs ago

Remember -- a couple of days after Trump launched his attack on the Pope, this happened.

A peculiar meeting at the Pentagon between apostolic nuncio Cardinal Christophe Pierre, who serves as Pope Leo XIV's U.S. representative, and a senior Department of Defense official has led to a flurry of speculation and concern about the relationship between the Pentagon and the Vatican.

The January meeting was first reported by The Free Press earlier this week, which claimed Pentagon officials warned the Vatican "the United States has the military power to do whatever it wants" and the Catholic Church should take its side. Within hours, the report sparked statements from U.S. and Vatican officials, with varying accounts and interpretations of the meeting emerging over the next day as a wave of discourse erupted among Vatican-watchers and other Catholics.


https://www.ncronline.org/news/unusual-pentagon-vatican-meeting-sparks-intrigue-denials-and-whispers-diplomatic-clash

Trump attacks the Pope, Hegseth's lap dogs attack senior Catholic clergy who -- Thank God! -- fired back and did not back down.

Which brings us to this question: At what point will Trump send his private army -- ICE -- into churches?

And what will you do when it's your church? At my church I will be one of those barring the doors and they will have to beat the shit out of me to get me out of the way.

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Great, I love it. Now let's talk about women in the/your church. efhmc 13 hrs ago #1
yeah, ok. can we focus for just a minute on what the Catholic Church is in the present getting right? MadameButterfly 9 hrs ago #33
My bet is that they will never address this issue because they firmly believe we are less than men. Unless we are needed efhmc 3 hrs ago #47
Let's stay on topic! Grins 7 hrs ago #40
Can we avoid getting diverted from the topic at hand? summer_in_TX 3 hrs ago #48
This is crazy obamanut2012 13 hrs ago #2
It's such an unfamiliar feeling. I'm really impressed with them. Scrivener7 13 hrs ago #5
Pope Leo is a good guy MustLoveBeagles 11 hrs ago #10
We're catholic too - just not with a capital C TommyT139 10 hrs ago #25
They'll still vote for Trump who is evil personified. Irish_Dem 13 hrs ago #3
I know a lot of Catholics who vote D FakeNoose 11 hrs ago #7
All the Catholics I know are staunch dyed in the wool MAGAs. Irish_Dem 10 hrs ago #20
Joe Biden is Catholic Bristlecone 8 hrs ago #37
Unfortunately I do not run in the same circles as Joe Biden and his pals. Irish_Dem 8 hrs ago #39
So is Martin Sheen xmas74 6 hrs ago #45
You need to get out more. Grins 7 hrs ago #41
There were a lot of Catholics where I used to live. Irish_Dem 7 hrs ago #43
I recall some surveys I saw years ago . . . AverageOldGuy 10 hrs ago #21
I hope by "they" you're not speaking of Catholics whathehell 10 hrs ago #29
Not that I give a shit but Shady is malaise 13 hrs ago #4
Maybe that's the Couch Botherer's long game? VTderry 11 hrs ago #9
Love it malaise 10 hrs ago #16
Lol. But then again, B.See 9 hrs ago #35
American Catholics are not a monolithic group, whathehell 9 hrs ago #30
PRECISELY B.See 9 hrs ago #36
Let's not put this on Catholics MadameButterfly 9 hrs ago #34
Good to see the U.S. Bishops start to wake up. themaguffin 12 hrs ago #6
Some claim this is a Christian Nation. multigraincracker 11 hrs ago #8
Sane Christians still believe in the separation of Church and State TommyT139 10 hrs ago #26
Most of the signers of the Constitution multigraincracker 7 hrs ago #42
Let's not..Up until relatively recently whathehell 9 hrs ago #31
This of course must be explained to the sociopath in Chief. Passages 11 hrs ago #11
Accomplices to crime. Six "Catholicks" of note usonian 11 hrs ago #12
Two "Catholicks" of Greater note.. whathehell 8 hrs ago #38
Are the prediction markets taking any line on a Trump War with the Vatican? rurallib 11 hrs ago #13
JD seems to have bought in to the Nativist/Klanner Warpy 11 hrs ago #14
Good. I wish they had been a defender of Pope Francis Raven123 11 hrs ago #15
It's not just Trump's attack on the Pope AverageOldGuy 10 hrs ago #17
ICE arrests in churches TommyT139 10 hrs ago #27
I might not be a believer anymore LostOne4Ever 10 hrs ago #18
Trump doesn't engage in the concept of "just war". patphil 10 hrs ago #19
Well, trump is bigger than Jesus. C Moon 10 hrs ago #22
No, that was the Beatles... nt Another Jackalope 9 hrs ago #32
Excommunicate Jethro!! paleotn 10 hrs ago #23
Thank you, Bishops. spanone 10 hrs ago #24
Direct link to statement TommyT139 10 hrs ago #28
Journalist Mike Barnicle had an interesting thought today during his time... 3catwoman3 6 hrs ago #44
There might be some truth to that. Haggard Celine 1 hr ago #49
Excommunicate the apostate! nt Xipe Totec 4 hrs ago #46
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