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NNadir

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19. I willingly take some flak for my position that there is...

Reply to MadameButterfly (Reply #15)

Wed May 13, 2026, 03:37 PM

May 13

...one and only one, form of sustainable energy, nuclear energy.

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BURGUM: When the sun goes down, solar produces zero electricity HUFFMAN: I want to enter into the record this amazing [View all] demmiblue May 13 OP

OMFG Chicagogrl1 May 13 #1

MTG got ridiculed for saying the same thing... regnaD kciN May 13 #2

He's never seen the solar path lights they sell in the stores dalton99a May 13 #3

I have four different sets of them in my garden and by my door. niyad May 13 #11

Thanks for that. I don't have outside outlets and would like to have lights outside. Just hadn't thought it through Amaryllis May 13 #75

You are most welcome. There are so many kinds available. Have fun choosing! niyad May 13 #76

Costco has had some pretty ones in the past. AllyCat May 13 #86

Dollar store even has them NHvet Thursday #105

Burgum wanting a rational discussion on subject he doesn't understand. txwhitedove May 13 #4

you can't understand something when your livelihood depends on ignorance DBoon May 13 #23

... eppur_se_muova May 13 #58

He understands it. He misinforms, gaslights, obfuscates, lies by design. LuvLoogie May 13 #61

Sinclair Lewis understood Burgum's ilk charliea May 13 #66

He cannot possibly be this stupid mcar May 13 #5

Of course he can! Why do you think the puppeteers chose him? niyad May 13 #7

He, like the rest of the minions, sold his soul to TSF mcar May 13 #9

You are assuming that they had souls to sell? niyad May 13 #12

Good point mcar May 13 #54

Disagree! Ray Bruns Thursday #95

He is not stupid. Disingenuous yes but stupid he is not. Botany Thursday #101

One of two things is true of Burgum meow2u3 May 13 #6

He could be that dumb, and still helping to line the pockets of the niyad May 13 #8

Extraction, vulture capitalism's engine burns fossil fuel Magoo48 May 13 #42

He seriously just might be that dumb Seinan Sensei May 13 #49

Both could be true... AZ8theist Thursday #92

Actually, the belief that batteries are sustainable is... NNadir May 13 #10

What are suggesting instead? MadameButterfly May 13 #15

I willingly take some flak for my position that there is... NNadir May 13 #19

Nuclear has a role to play liberalgunwilltravel May 13 #22

I am an expert on this topic, having studied it for decades. NNadir May 13 #25

Nuclear is fine as part of the solution liberalgunwilltravel May 13 #28

I am always asked this question, day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year. NNadir May 13 #36

For the uninitiated (like me), DME stands for dimethyl ether. TheRickles May 13 #52

I do not support DME from dangerous natural gas. As is the case with hydrogen itself, exergy is destroyed under... NNadir May 13 #55

I heard that we can't produce the steel needed for SMRs anymore. SonOfNebanaube May 13 #79

Chornobyl converted me from being an uneducated antinuke to a well educated nuclear advocate. NNadir Thursday #93

If you remember the remark made by the nonscientist, Louis Strauss, the "bad guy" in the movie Oppenheimer... NNadir Thursday #94

What about them? Boo1 Friday #114

I've been down this road MadameButterfly Friday #120

The finest minds of the 21st century understand that nuclear energy is not the only form of sustainable energy. thought crime May 13 #84

We have a Nuke plant in Kansas and we've been RAPED by it on rates since 1985 Bengus81 Thursday #98

Nevertheless the planet has been raped by fossil fuels. NNadir Thursday #99

How much do you pay for electricity? hunter Thursday #107

Maybe nuclear? Mossfern May 13 #20

You need power liberalgunwilltravel May 13 #30

Thanks Mossfern May 13 #59

Hydrogen, whether generated by clean nuclear power or by so called "renewable energy" is a terrible idea as a... NNadir May 13 #41

Thank you Mossfern May 13 #60

Well the good thing about admitting one knows little - the excellent thing in fact - is that one's mind is open. NNadir May 13 #63

This message was self-deleted by its author MadameButterfly May 13 #16

I'm Sorry but what you say is not the whole story. liberalgunwilltravel May 13 #21

At Field Station Berlin we used lead-acid batteries in our powerhouse jmowreader May 13 #48

Hmm... the smell: would exposure be detrimental w all that lead or a short time there would prevent that electric_blue68 May 13 #56

Once the lead is cast into plates and fixed into a cell it's no problem, so long as it stays there jmowreader May 13 #87

TY for explanation electric_blue68 Saturday #121

chemical batteries are only one type of battery lapfog_1 May 13 #32

LFP batteries don't have cobalt (or even nickel) however. Disaffected May 13 #38

It's always something tomorrow. hunter May 13 #53

Fusion energy and the hydrogen economy are very iffy alright but, Disaffected May 13 #73

Magic in the sense that they would allow us to quit both fossil fuels and nuclear power. hunter Thursday #89

I don't think anyone is seriously claiming batteries will reach utopia, Disaffected Thursday #91

Sorry to disappoint, but "renewables" are less than 10% of China's primary energy... hunter Thursday #106

"renewables" are less than 10% of China's primary energy..." Disaffected Thursday #108

There was all sorts of happy talk about renewable energy in China... hunter Thursday #112

The Trump administration is trying to boost nuclear energy thought crime May 13 #88

I have spent decades in the primary scientific literature and as a result, I have very little patience for handwaving. NNadir May 13 #62

Good grief, I'll not waste time trying to respond to all your "points". Disaffected May 13 #68

Um, kiddie...China is NOT a Luddite country. It's become the world leader in science, since in the US abrogated... NNadir Friday #115

Ugh. Disaffected Friday #117

Trust me, I'm well aware that there are people who cannot be "convinced" of anything. They're not especially bright... NNadir Friday #118

I think we have talked about this before. I am hearing that there are companies that PatrickforB May 13 #46

In applications that are not sensitive to energy density, USAF Brat May 13 #57

I used to be totally off grid with batteries but connected to grid and now can watch my electric metor spin backwards womanofthehills Friday #113

Rs also like to say when there's no wind blowing KS Toronado May 13 #13

🤣🤣🤣 ultralite001 May 13 #14

I had an experience several months ago with a MAGA about wind energy storage. wnylib May 13 #70

Also, wind farms are placed in windy places womanofthehills Friday #116

Amen KS Toronado Friday #119

He know that.. he's Trumps jester. BradBo May 13 #17

Literally... BurnDoubt May 13 #18

This old girl would just say, it seems it can get complicated. Joinfortmill May 13 #24

Batteries are a regressive tax on low income people... hunter May 13 #26

LOL popsdenver May 13 #44

Hoover dam has never produced as much electricity in a single year... hunter May 13 #67

I guess popsdenver May 13 #69

The argument against renewable energy is an alternative form of climate change denial. thought crime May 13 #47

"the sole purpose of which is to assuage the guilt that affluent people feel for their environmentally destructive lifes DBoon May 13 #85

Doh! Dave Bowman May 13 #27

Well, batteries Manatee May 13 #29

Ouch! Chasstev365 May 13 #31

My outdoor solar lights stay on all night. Are they possessed? twodogsbarking May 13 #33

The lengths these... relogic May 13 #34

Yes, and when the sun goes down there is no photosynthesis and the plants all die. dedl67 May 13 #35

+1 dalton99a May 13 #40

BURGUM... littlemissmartypants May 13 #37

An overly simple idea Crawford May 13 #39

Enough with these "The gentleman..." swong19104 May 13 #43

"Are you a fucking idiot?" I love that. Buddyzbuddy May 13 #50

The same basic argument is made for wind jmowreader May 13 #45

I covered the absurdity of this argument previously, discussing the amount of cobalt required to cover a month of... NNadir May 13 #51

The Tesla 3 battery, the one "currently" manufactured Disaffected May 13 #83

We're saved then!!!!! A lot has been written about these batteries it turns out, and a full commentary... NNadir Thursday #97

Don't bother, Disaffected Thursday #102

Well, I'll comment despite your disinterest on the science... NNadir Thursday #104

Good one. Please explain this very novel and new concept to me. Thanks. efhmc May 13 #64

He is his boss's servant D_Master81 May 13 #65

Although Solar Syastems produce NO POWER at night... WarGamer May 13 #71

That moment of "sunlight" exposed Burgum to be oasis May 13 #72

According to Bergum, solar is "intermittent" and not secure Renew Deal May 13 #74

They are going to complain that some other power source is interruptable during RockRaven May 13 #77

Genius that one is BillJoeBobBeauregard May 13 #78

just have to put in this reply and a response to the reply: orleans May 13 #80

Is there a Nobel Prize for stupidity? Permanut May 13 #81

Yes. It's called the FIFA Peace Prize. Ray Bruns Thursday #96

For the next news flash - wind turbines stop generating when there is no wind! Aussie105 May 13 #82

Australia can become a global energy powerhouse thought crime Thursday #100

You could put solar panels near hydro dams and applegrove Thursday #90

That has been done ("stored hydro") but Disaffected Thursday #111

I'm guessing Burgum self-identifies as an energy expert Torchlight Thursday #103

MaddowBlog-On renewable energy, Interior's Burgum offers a case study in willful ignorance LetMyPeopleVote Thursday #109

Breaking news: Batteries LetMyPeopleVote Thursday #110

This made me smile LetMyPeopleVote Saturday #122