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30. You need power

Wed May 13, 2026, 04:13 PM

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To crack water to produce hydrogen. And then you need the extensive infrastructure to store, distribute, and dispense the hydrogen.

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BURGUM: When the sun goes down, solar produces zero electricity HUFFMAN: I want to enter into the record this amazing [View all] demmiblue Yesterday OP

OMFG Chicagogrl1 Yesterday #1

MTG got ridiculed for saying the same thing... regnaD kciN Yesterday #2

He's never seen the solar path lights they sell in the stores dalton99a Yesterday #3

I have four different sets of them in my garden and by my door. niyad Yesterday #11

Thanks for that. I don't have outside outlets and would like to have lights outside. Just hadn't thought it through Amaryllis 17 hrs ago #75

You are most welcome. There are so many kinds available. Have fun choosing! niyad 17 hrs ago #76

Costco has had some pretty ones in the past. AllyCat 15 hrs ago #86

Dollar store even has them NHvet 3 hrs ago #105

Burgum wanting a rational discussion on subject he doesn't understand. txwhitedove Yesterday #4

you can't understand something when your livelihood depends on ignorance DBoon 23 hrs ago #23

... eppur_se_muova 21 hrs ago #58

He understands it. He misinforms, gaslights, obfuscates, lies by design. LuvLoogie 21 hrs ago #61

Sinclair Lewis understood Burgum's ilk charliea 19 hrs ago #66

He cannot possibly be this stupid mcar Yesterday #5

Of course he can! Why do you think the puppeteers chose him? niyad Yesterday #7

He, like the rest of the minions, sold his soul to TSF mcar Yesterday #9

You are assuming that they had souls to sell? niyad 23 hrs ago #12

Good point mcar 21 hrs ago #54

Disagree! Ray Bruns 6 hrs ago #95

He is not stupid. Disingenuous yes but stupid he is not. Botany 4 hrs ago #101

One of two things is true of Burgum meow2u3 Yesterday #6

He could be that dumb, and still helping to line the pockets of the niyad Yesterday #8

Extraction, vulture capitalism's engine burns fossil fuel Magoo48 22 hrs ago #42

He seriously just might be that dumb Seinan Sensei 22 hrs ago #49

Both could be true... AZ8theist 11 hrs ago #92

Actually, the belief that batteries are sustainable is... NNadir Yesterday #10

What are suggesting instead? MadameButterfly 23 hrs ago #15

I willingly take some flak for my position that there is... NNadir 23 hrs ago #19

Nuclear has a role to play liberalgunwilltravel 23 hrs ago #22

I am an expert on this topic, having studied it for decades. NNadir 23 hrs ago #25

Nuclear is fine as part of the solution liberalgunwilltravel 23 hrs ago #28

I am always asked this question, day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year. NNadir 22 hrs ago #36

For the uninitiated (like me), DME stands for dimethyl ether. TheRickles 21 hrs ago #52

I do not support DME from dangerous natural gas. As is the case with hydrogen itself, exergy is destroyed under... NNadir 21 hrs ago #55

I heard that we can't produce the steel needed for SMRs anymore. SonOfNebanaube 17 hrs ago #79

Chornobyl converted me from being an uneducated antinuke to a well educated nuclear advocate. NNadir 8 hrs ago #93

If you remember the remark made by the nonscientist, Louis Strauss, the "bad guy" in the movie Oppenheimer... NNadir 8 hrs ago #94

The finest minds of the 21st century understand that nuclear energy is not the only form of sustainable energy. thought crime 15 hrs ago #84

We have a Nuke plant in Kansas and we've been RAPED by it on rates since 1985 Bengus81 6 hrs ago #98

Nevertheless the planet has been raped by fossil fuels. NNadir 5 hrs ago #99

How much do you pay for electricity? hunter 3 hrs ago #107

Maybe nuclear? Mossfern 23 hrs ago #20

You need power liberalgunwilltravel 23 hrs ago #30

Thanks Mossfern 21 hrs ago #59

Hydrogen, whether generated by clean nuclear power or by so called "renewable energy" is a terrible idea as a... NNadir 22 hrs ago #41

Thank you Mossfern 21 hrs ago #60

Well the good thing about admitting one knows little - the excellent thing in fact - is that one's mind is open. NNadir 20 hrs ago #63

This message was self-deleted by its author MadameButterfly 23 hrs ago #16

I'm Sorry but what you say is not the whole story. liberalgunwilltravel 23 hrs ago #21

At Field Station Berlin we used lead-acid batteries in our powerhouse jmowreader 22 hrs ago #48

Hmm... the smell: would exposure be detrimental w all that lead or a short time there would prevent that electric_blue68 21 hrs ago #56

Once the lead is cast into plates and fixed into a cell it's no problem, so long as it stays there jmowreader 15 hrs ago #87

chemical batteries are only one type of battery lapfog_1 23 hrs ago #32

LFP batteries don't have cobalt (or even nickel) however. Disaffected 22 hrs ago #38

It's always something tomorrow. hunter 21 hrs ago #53

Fusion energy and the hydrogen economy are very iffy alright but, Disaffected 18 hrs ago #73

Magic in the sense that they would allow us to quit both fossil fuels and nuclear power. hunter 15 hrs ago #89

I don't think anyone is seriously claiming batteries will reach utopia, Disaffected 13 hrs ago #91

Sorry to disappoint, but "renewables" are less than 10% of China's primary energy... hunter 3 hrs ago #106

"renewables" are less than 10% of China's primary energy..." Disaffected 2 hrs ago #108

The Trump administration is trying to boost nuclear energy thought crime 15 hrs ago #88

I have spent decades in the primary scientific literature and as a result, I have very little patience for handwaving. NNadir 21 hrs ago #62

Good grief, I'll not waste time trying to respond to all your "points". Disaffected 19 hrs ago #68

I think we have talked about this before. I am hearing that there are companies that PatrickforB 22 hrs ago #46

In applications that are not sensitive to energy density, USAF Brat 21 hrs ago #57

Rs also like to say when there's no wind blowing KS Toronado 23 hrs ago #13

🤣🤣🤣 ultralite001 23 hrs ago #14

I had an experience several months ago with a MAGA about wind energy storage. wnylib 19 hrs ago #70

He know that.. he's Trumps jester. BradBo 23 hrs ago #17

Literally... BurnDoubt 23 hrs ago #18

This old girl would just say, it seems it can get complicated. Joinfortmill 23 hrs ago #24

Batteries are a regressive tax on low income people... hunter 23 hrs ago #26

LOL popsdenver 22 hrs ago #44

Hoover dam has never produced as much electricity in a single year... hunter 19 hrs ago #67

I guess popsdenver 19 hrs ago #69

The argument against renewable energy is an alternative form of climate change denial. thought crime 22 hrs ago #47

"the sole purpose of which is to assuage the guilt that affluent people feel for their environmentally destructive lifes DBoon 15 hrs ago #85

Doh! Dave Bowman 23 hrs ago #27

Well, batteries Manatee 23 hrs ago #29

Ouch! Chasstev365 23 hrs ago #31

My outdoor solar lights stay on all night. Are they possessed? twodogsbarking 23 hrs ago #33

The lengths these... relogic 22 hrs ago #34

Yes, and when the sun goes down there is no photosynthesis and the plants all die. dedl67 22 hrs ago #35

+1 dalton99a 22 hrs ago #40

BURGUM... littlemissmartypants 22 hrs ago #37

An overly simple idea Crawford 22 hrs ago #39

Enough with these "The gentleman..." swong19104 22 hrs ago #43

"Are you a fucking idiot?" I love that. Buddyzbuddy 21 hrs ago #50

The same basic argument is made for wind jmowreader 22 hrs ago #45

I covered the absurdity of this argument previously, discussing the amount of cobalt required to cover a month of... NNadir 21 hrs ago #51

The Tesla 3 battery, the one "currently" manufactured Disaffected 16 hrs ago #83

We're saved then!!!!! A lot has been written about these batteries it turns out, and a full commentary... NNadir 6 hrs ago #97

Don't bother, Disaffected 4 hrs ago #102

Well, I'll comment despite your disinterest on the science... NNadir 3 hrs ago #104

Good one. Please explain this very novel and new concept to me. Thanks. efhmc 20 hrs ago #64

He is his boss's servant D_Master81 20 hrs ago #65

Although Solar Syastems produce NO POWER at night... WarGamer 19 hrs ago #71

That moment of "sunlight" exposed Burgum to be oasis 19 hrs ago #72

According to Bergum, solar is "intermittent" and not secure Renew Deal 18 hrs ago #74

They are going to complain that some other power source is interruptable during RockRaven 17 hrs ago #77

Genius that one is BillJoeBobBeauregard 17 hrs ago #78

just have to put in this reply and a response to the reply: orleans 17 hrs ago #80

Is there a Nobel Prize for stupidity? Permanut 16 hrs ago #81

Yes. It's called the FIFA Peace Prize. Ray Bruns 6 hrs ago #96

For the next news flash - wind turbines stop generating when there is no wind! Aussie105 16 hrs ago #82

Australia can become a global energy powerhouse thought crime 5 hrs ago #100

You could put solar panels near hydro dams and applegrove 14 hrs ago #90

I'm guessing Burgum self-identifies as an energy expert Torchlight 4 hrs ago #103

MaddowBlog-On renewable energy, Interior's Burgum offers a case study in willful ignorance LetMyPeopleVote 10 min ago #109