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Celerity

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11. No it is not, that's a false claim. The Totenkopf was used in the German military almost 200 years before the Nazis.
Sun May 31, 2026, 07:44 PM
May 31
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totenkopf

German military

Prussia


Hussar from Husaren-Regiment Nr. 5 (von Ruesch) in 1744 with the Totenkopf on the mirliton (Ger. Flügelmütze)

Use of the Totenkopf in Germany as a military emblem began under Frederick the Great, who formed a regiment of Hussar cavalry in the Prussian army commanded by Colonel von Ruesch, the Husaren-Regiment Nr. 5 (von Ruesch). It adopted a black uniform with a Totenkopf emblazoned on the front of its mirlitons and wore it on the field in the War of Austrian Succession and in the Seven Years' War.[6] The Totenkopf remained a part of the uniform when the regiment was reformed into Leib-Husaren Regiments Nr.1 and Nr.2 in 1808. The symbol was then granted 3 years later to the Spanish Army’s 8th Light Cavalry Regiment “Lusitania”, who were nicknamed “Los Dragones de la Muerte” (the Dragons of Death) and were granted use of the skull after the infamous Battle of Madonna dell'Olmo in 1744, where they suffered great casualties.


Totenkopf badge worn by the Brunswick Leibbataillon ( "Life-Guard Battalion" ) at the Battle of Waterloo in 1815

Brunswick

In 1809, during the War of the Fifth Coalition, Frederick William, Duke of Brunswick-Wolfenbüttel raised a force of volunteers to fight Napoleon Bonaparte, who had conquered the Duke's lands. The Brunswick Corps was provided with black uniforms, giving rise to their nickname, the Black Brunswickers. Both hussar cavalry and infantry in the force wore a Totenkopf badge, either in mourning for the duke's father, Charles William Ferdinand, Duke of Brunswick-Wolfenbüttel, who had been killed at the Battle of Jena–Auerstedt in 1806, or according to some sources, as a sign of revenge against the French. After fighting their way through Germany, the Black Brunswickers entered British service and fought with them in the Peninsular War and at the Battle of Waterloo. The Brunswick corps was eventually incorporated into the Prussian Army in 1866.


German Empire era Totenkopf

German Empire

The skull continued to be used by the Prussian and Brunswick armed forces until 1918, and some of the stormtroopers that led the last German offensives on the Western Front in 1918 used skull badges. Luftstreitkräfte fighter pilots Georg von Hantelmann and Kurt Adolf Monnington are just two of a number of Central Powers military pilots who used the Totenkopf as their personal aircraft insignia.

Weimar Republic

The Totenkopf was used in Germany throughout the interwar period, most prominently by the Freikorps. In 1933, it was in use by the regimental staff and the 1st, 5th, and 11th squadrons of the Reichswehr's 5th Cavalry Regiment as a continuation of a tradition from the Kaiserreich.

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"So you take on symbols as a form of emotional armor" WhiskeyGrinder May 31 #1
That's the point of the OP, those symbols aren't exclusive to the NAZIS Uncle Joe May 31 #2
The totenkopf is. WhiskeyGrinder May 31 #3
That's just a German word for skull and bones. Uncle Joe May 31 #4
It means 'death's head'. nt Celerity May 31 #12
No it is not, that's a false claim. The Totenkopf was used in the German military almost 200 years before the Nazis. Celerity May 31 #11
Eh, I got sloppy. WhiskeyGrinder May 31 #14
Non sequitur. My rebuttal was addressing your claim that the Totenkopf symbol was exclusive to the Nazis. Celerity May 31 #15
As one who leans toward facts, logic and reason, Abolishinist May 31 #20
ty Celerity May 31 #22
This ought to be it's own post luv2fly May 31 #23
Factually correct sarisataka May 31 #25
Don't forget canetoad May 31 #21
Lovely... justifying NAZI tattoos WarGamer May 31 #5
We're talking about skull and bones which is universal. n/t Uncle Joe May 31 #6
taht's not the tattoo in question re: the candidate WarGamer May 31 #7
Skull and crossbones is what we're talking about. Uncle Joe May 31 #9
Not that skull and crossbones. That one is very specific to the Nazis. Iggo Jun 1 #27
I hope we see the same effort sarisataka May 31 #8
We will see a blue tsunami so Uncle Joe May 31 #10
It takes more to win an election sarisataka May 31 #16
That's true but you can't ignore a dysfunctional system that profits Uncle Joe May 31 #17
My wife is diabetic sarisataka May 31 #18
Well with her stock holdings, the more you pay, the more money Collins makes, Uncle Joe May 31 #19
You can have a skull tattoo Boo1 May 31 #13
Where's your paragraph on nazi use? stumpysbear May 31 #24
Okay. Now do the swastika. jmbar2 May 31 #26
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