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littlemissmartypants

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18. The caveat being...
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 12:35 AM
Jun 1

About Treaty Documents
The United States Constitution provides that the president “shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make treaties.” Treaties are binding agreements between nations and become part of international law. Treaty Documents are referred to the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations, where they may be considered and reported. The Senate can consider a treaty on the floor under similar procedures used for legislation. However, the Constitution requires that two-thirds of voting Senators agree for a treaty to be ratified.

The document I found doesn't say it was ratified.

https://www.congress.gov/treaty-document/105th-congress/18/more-info

It's confusing.

Latest Senate Action
10/21/1998
Resolution of advice and consent to ratification agreed to in Senate by Division vote.

https://www.congress.gov/treaty-document/105th-congress/18/resolution-text

As approved: Resolved (two-thirds of the Senators present concurring therein), That the Senate advise and consent to the ratification of the Extradition Treaty Between the United States of America and the Argentine Republic, signed at Buenos Aires on June 10, 1997 (Treaty Doc. 105-18), subject to the understanding of subsection (a), the declaration of subsection (b), and the proviso of subsection (c). (a) Understanding.¿ The Senate's advice and consent is subject to the following understanding, which shall be included in the instrument of ratification: Prohibition on Extradition to the International Criminal Court.¿ The United States understands that the protections contained in Article 16 concerning the Rule of Specialty would preclude the resurrender of any person from the United States to the International Criminal Court agreed to in Rome, Italy, on July 17, 1998, unless the United States consents to such resurrender; and the United States shall not consent to the transfer of any person extradited to Argentina by the United States to the International Criminal Court agreed to in Rome, Italy, on July 17, 1998, unless the treaty establishing that Court has entered into force for the United States by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, as required by Article II, section 2 of the United States Constitution. (b) Declaration.¿ The Senate's advice and consent is subject to the following declaration, which shall be binding on the President: Treaty Interpretation.¿ The Senate affirms the applicability to all treaties of the constitutionally based principles of treaty interpretation set forth in Condition (1) of the resolution of ratification of the INF Treaty, approved by the Senate on May 27, 1988, and Condition (8) of the resolution of ratification of the Document Agreed Among the States Parties to the Treaty on Conventional Armed Forces in Europe, approved by the Senate on May 14, 1997. (c) Proviso.¿ The resolution of ratification is subject to the following proviso, which shall not be included in the instrument of ratification to be signed by the President: Supremacy of the Constitution.¿ Nothing in the Treaty requires or authorizes legislation or other action by the United States of America that is prohibited by the Constitution of the United States as interpreted by the United States.

Others, please weigh in here. Is it ratified?

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Regarding Peter Thiel has moved to Argentina [View all] littlemissmartypants May 31 OP
Apparently it was a $20 billion currency swap done in October, and Argentina had paid OGBuzz May 31 #1
Something nefarious going on. Stay tuned. Perhaps a hostile takeover of a state proposed sanctuary for war criminals? OAITW r.2.0 May 31 #2
That's what I'm thinking, Thiel is down there paving the way for the rest. OGBuzz May 31 #4
Theil might be the tip of the spear. OAITW r.2.0 May 31 #6
Why would anyone believe a word that comes out of Scott Jennings' mouth? Wiz Imp May 31 #5
Trust me, I think Jennings is the biggest asshole in all of media. He was really trying hard to OGBuzz May 31 #9
He knows about the antichrist. mr715 May 31 #3
Argentina was where many German Nazis fled to after WWII. Just the place for Thiel. At least he knows where he belongs. Fil1957 May 31 #7
Ratlines in the 1940s IronLionZion May 31 #8
I had not thought of that. What I was thinking about was how some niyad May 31 #10
And electronic money transfers. 💰 ❤️ littlemissmartypants May 31 #11
Yes!!! niyad Jun 1 #12
Yeah. I read somewhere about a self governing Figarosmom Jun 1 #13
Also, there is no extradition treaty with Argentina. ... aggiesal Jun 1 #14
I think you're mistaken... We do have an extradition agreement with Argentina... I just checked Congress.gov. liberalla Jun 1 #15
The caveat being... littlemissmartypants Jun 1 #18
I found this info on ratification, on the State Dept archived website: liberalla Jun 1 #20
Thank you!❤️ littlemissmartypants Jun 1 #21
So take that, Peter!!! liberalla Jun 1 #22
Precisely! littlemissmartypants Jun 1 #23
I found evidence of an extradition treaty with Argentina online. littlemissmartypants Jun 1 #16
Yes, that was to keep another Trump buddy hedge fund investor from losing his bet in Argentina and to keep Milei's ChicagoTeamster Jun 1 #17
They have a close relationship. littlemissmartypants Jun 1 #19
But without taxes, the governments they prey upon wouldn't have the money for them to steal. Musk and Thiel ChicagoTeamster Jun 1 #24
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