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drmeow

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65. Forgiveness

Mon Jun 1, 2026, 12:59 PM

Jun 1

requires admitting wrongdoing, making amends, and agreeing to change. When you leave the confessional, you leave with penance and the instruction to sin no more. Those are the terms of forgiveness.

MAGA wants forgiveness without any of that - to which I say F#$$ to h$_& off.

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Can you ever forgive MAGA voters? [View all] kentuck Jun 1 OP

I'll NEVER FORGET, that's for sure (in some views, that means I never really forgive, so... ) hlthe2b Jun 1 #1

Forgive? Perhaps ProfessorGAC Jun 1 #2

Not at this stage of the game. Junipercity Jun 1 #88

I'm afraid Mad_Machine76 Jun 1 #126

I don't know many people like those you described.. MineralMan Jun 1 #3

My late Mother was a huge Trump supporter from the instant he came on the political scene. COL Mustard Jun 1 #57

Very sad for you... some_of_us_are_sane Jun 1 #113

No HappyH Jun 1 #4

NO durablend Jun 1 #5

I cut myself loose from those people long ago. Ritabert Jun 1 #6

Talk to me after all their shit is cleaned up Alpeduez21 Jun 1 #7

NOPE. n/t Coventina Jun 1 #8

NOPE! bluestarone Jun 1 #9

I dont care about your past so much as SSJVegeta Jun 1 #10

Fuck trump voters.. thomski64 Jun 1 #11

HELL to the NO IzzaNuDay Jun 1 #12

Forgiveness benefits me, so yes. catrose Jun 1 #13

I can forgive those that solely got their info from right wing media only to discover other points of view AStern Jun 1 #14

They don't even exist in the same (real) world underpants Jun 1 #40

Have a buddy who is a Trumper/Fox guy FHRRK1 Jun 1 #103

That's a reasonable response... some_of_us_are_sane Jun 1 #116

Fuck them! 3_Limes Jun 1 #15

This! Besides; they will follow the next con artist Blaukraut Jun 2 #170

Nope. Fuck em. CanonRay Jun 1 #16

Nope Quiet Em Jun 1 #17

Only if obnoxiousdrunk Jun 1 #18

Fuck no! Aristus Jun 1 #19

It Feels Like an Awfully Big Stretch to Actually Forgive Unthinking, Mentally-lazy Propaganda Addicts The Roux Comes First Jun 1 #20

I feel sorry for their delusions... Soul_of_Wit Jun 1 #21

People who voted for Trump after hearing him brag about grabbing women and watching him mock the disabled reporter? dalton99a Jun 1 #22

Absolutely not. MontanaMama Jun 1 #23

No. LoisB Jun 1 #24

No -- they are enemies to all free and peace loving people Ponietz Jun 1 #25

no. rampartd Jun 1 #26

Easy answer- nope chicoescuela Jun 1 #27

I don't think they knew. They have no moral or intellectual compass. They thought Trump was cool. bucolic_frolic Jun 1 #28

His appeal to them all was his racism and sexism, and though many Scrivener7 Jun 1 #29

HELL NO! Chasstev365 Jun 1 #30

Fuck NO. FoxNewsSucks Jun 1 #31

No. Bettie Jun 1 #32

Fuck no Aviation Pro Jun 1 #33

NEVER! zanana1 Jun 1 #34

No nt lark Jun 1 #35

After a very long time. Punishing has to happen. Blue Full Moon Jun 1 #36

No underpants Jun 1 #37

Forgive? No way in hell Grim Chieftain Jun 1 #38

As citizens, we all have a duty to... BH liberal Jun 1 #39

Only if they promise to NEVER VOTE AGAIN! EastBayGuy Jun 1 #41

NO. I'm nearer to the end of my life than the beginning and for the remainder of it.. CousinIT Jun 1 #42

Hell yes orangecrush Jun 1 #43

I'm with you Martin Eden Jun 2 #156

No, especially the ones who voted for Luciferous Jun 1 #44

NO Liberal In Red State Jun 1 #45

Not really - there's "Friends and Family ".. haele Jun 1 #46

HELL NO! Emile Jun 1 #47

uhmmm sagetea Jun 1 #48

Never, nope, and hell no. kairos12 Jun 1 #49

Can't forgive yankee87 Jun 1 #50

Nope vapor2 Jun 1 #51

They voted for Cancer... Escape Jun 1 #52

NO!!!!!! aeromanKC Jun 1 #53

After they enabled the destruction of our Democracy, took food from the mouth of babies, end USAID Old-8643 Jun 1 #54

Yes - On a case by case basis. ihaveaquestion Jun 1 #55

My personal take TheProle Jun 1 #56

Thanks for the oasis of rational thinking orangecrush Jun 1 #70

FUCK that Skittles Jun 2 #143

"What matters is course-correction for future generations." Martin Eden Jun 2 #158

Nope, I have distanced myself from them. I will be polite but that's it. Everyone knew the reputation TommieMommy Jun 1 #58

They weren't just ignorant. They embraced willful ignorance. DeeDeeNY Jun 1 #59

Their embracing of willful ignorance is something La Coliniere Jun 2 #153

This is a joke, right? Ol Janx Spirit Jun 1 #60

It's on an almost case-by-case basis. BobTheSubgenius Jun 1 #61

I can forgive but never trust their judgement again kimbutgar Jun 1 #62

I have family I love who are trump supporters LuvLoogie Jun 1 #63

You perfectly capture the feelings I have toward my MAGA family members. callous taoboy Jun 2 #148

Forgive? Dave Id Jun 1 #64

Forgiveness drmeow Jun 1 #65

I'm perfectly happy to add to the many No votes here. NNadir Jun 1 #66

No. hamsterjill Jun 1 #67

After three elections involving this asshole? Fuck no. W_HAMILTON Jun 1 #68

Nope. MaeScott Jun 1 #69

Polls show that MAGA voters still support Trump Kaleva Jun 1 #71

NO! virgdem Jun 1 #72

Not unless they make SERIOUS reparations Wicked Blue Jun 1 #73

NO!!! CaptainTruth Jun 1 #74

Depends upon how contrite/sincere they are RussBLib Jun 1 #75

Cry me a fucking river, magats. Gaytano70 Jun 1 #76

Maybe. In about a thousand years (or longer), mwmisses4289 Jun 1 #77

So we had a former friend of the family turned magat contact us the other day GoodRaisin Jun 1 #78

No, I view them the same as rabid nazis who supported Hitler Mysterian Jun 1 #79

Good analogy! kentuck Jun 1 #94

Can you ever forgive MAGA voters? NO! aggiesal Jun 1 #80

I have low tolerance for willfull ignorance. lpbk2713 Jun 1 #81

No, they still love him. dem4decades Jun 1 #82

I feel like it doesn't matter, they've always been there FullySupportDems Jun 1 #83

I already have, for the most part Warpy Jun 1 #84

I don't know. barbtries Jun 1 #85

No. lizardkingjr Jun 1 #86

Recommended. H2O Man Jun 1 #87

The ones i know i already broke off with long ago. Figarosmom Jun 1 #89

I am lucky enough not to have any Trumpers in my immediate life. ShazzieB Jun 1 #90

No. Never. maspaha Jun 1 #91

Let me know how they vote in the next few elections. n/t flvegan Jun 1 #92

Yes, if they confess their sin and sincerely ask for forgiveness surfered Jun 1 #93

According to the Catholic official Rite of Penance, forgiveness requires penitents to go through four steps: sop Jun 1 #95

HELL NO. That is all. Not ever. NEVER!! LSparkle Jun 1 #96

Why were they terribly wrong??? rogue emissary Jun 1 #97

Maybe I understand forgiveness in a different way. I see at as an inner release of people who have wronged me. PatrickforB Jun 1 #98

We have our own MAGA-type problem brewing here with Platner. jmbar2 Jun 1 #99

Actions do speak louder than words... sarisataka Jun 1 #108

No freakin way...plus... MiHale Jun 1 #100

The primaries tell a different story... lame54 Jun 1 #101

Forgive? NEVER!!!!! LilElf70 Jun 1 #102

That is like asking me if I forgive Sirhan Bishara Sirhan or Mark David Chapman DFW Jun 1 #104

No. Just as I will never forgive the "butter emails" crowd, or the "she's a warmonger" crowd... QueerDuck Jun 1 #105

Yes! I think if I started adding to that list I'd get too worked up... betsuni Jun 2 #167

I know not a single one with regrets. maxsolomon Jun 1 #106

Despite all of the strong denials sarisataka Jun 1 #107

Willful ignorance is not forgivable. 3825-87867 Jun 1 #109

100% that!!! oasis Jun 1 #127

Nope. Because I will not believe any of them are actually appropriately sorry. RockRaven Jun 1 #110

No, I don't mgardener Jun 1 #111

To me, there is a difference between regret and remorse. Of those people who regret their alwaysinasnit Jun 1 #112

NO CharleyDog Jun 1 #114

Bodily autonomy, & the abortion issue, I was already having difficulty socializing with republicans. CrispyQ Jun 1 #115

They will have to deserve it, and then ask for forgiveness biophile Jun 1 #117

If we can't unite against the tyrants, oligarchs, policies, etc. that harm us, snot Jun 1 #118

Exactly Martin Eden Jun 2 #159

no ShepKat Jun 1 #119

Do not underestimate how much THEY HATE US ThoughtCriminal Jun 1 #120

Many still support him pattyloutwo Jun 1 #121

Sadly, two of my three my kids voted for Trump hurl Jun 1 #122

No! There are obligations for the privilege of living in a democracy Attilatheblond Jun 1 #123

No, massive damage has already been done mvd Jun 1 #124

I'm not sure Mad_Machine76 Jun 1 #125

Fool you once, shame on you Johonny Jun 1 #128

Forgive? It's really not appropriate, for me, anyway. vanlassie Jun 1 #129

Nope. They may be disappointed, but they are still MAGA/Tea Party/3%/Militia/Bugaloo/Proud Boys and ... marble falls Jun 1 #130

NOPE. buzzycrumbhunger Jun 1 #131

It's like a complete identity thing for them and so I don't know if it'll change oldmanlynn Jun 1 #132

yeh , NO dweller Jun 1 #133

Nope. The racist morons knew what they were voting for. Dave Bowman Jun 2 #134

F-'EM! czarjak Jun 2 #135

HELL TO THE NO! Blue Owl Jun 2 #136

Sure, I can forgive Fred and Barney Beringia Jun 2 #137

No forgiveness unless they actively work to try to undo the VTderry Jun 2 #138

"They have deep regret and they want off the ship"? red dog 1 Jun 2 #139

They're not asking, and I'm not offering. Mike Niendorff Jun 2 #140

No. sakabatou Jun 2 #141

NO Skittles Jun 2 #142

It depends on the reason for their remorse DFW Jun 2 #144

it's not just America they damaged Skittles Jun 2 #145

There is that as well, but they cannot vote in our elections DFW Jun 2 #146

repukes will NEVER be able to "repay" the damage they have done Skittles Jun 2 #168

There is not enough tea in all of China? DFW Jun 2 #169

Perhaps when my MAGA family members are on their death beds. callous taoboy Jun 2 #147

Depends on when they redeemed themselves Polybius Jun 2 #149

Forgive those who know not what they do Martin Eden Jun 2 #150

No no a thousand times no. Never forgive, never forgetj Trueblue1968 Jun 2 #151

Absolutely. mahina Jun 2 #152

I live in a mixed Florida neighborhood PCB66 Jun 2 #154

No- Real harm was done tulipsandroses Jun 2 #155

Never. All 87 million+ voters need to "take one for the team." Efilroft Sul Jun 2 #157

Anyone remotely rationale would have concluded long ago that Donald Trump is unfit for the job of president. waterwatcher123 Jun 2 #160

Thinking about sending my Talibangelical Maga relatives an image of my Satanic Temple card. Girard442 Jun 2 #161

Not a snowballs chance in h... redstatebluegirl Jun 2 #162

I never bought into the whole "Christian" forgiveness thing... Trueblue Texan Jun 2 #163

NO! happy feet Jun 2 #164

Nope Deep State Witch Jun 2 #165

Its the MS media that I cannot forgive dclarston13 Jun 2 #166