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Disaffected

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18. That is the crucial point. To elaborate a bit,
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 12:54 PM
Jun 2

we have absolutely no idea what the odds are of intelligent life evolving on a habitable planet. All we know, because we are here, if that the odds are not zero and, that the chances are not equal to 1 (i.e. a certainty). Therefore the actual odds lie somewhere between those two extremes but we have no idea at all of where.

For instance, if the odds of intelligent life developing on a habitable planet were 0.1, then, given the number of inhabitable planets we have discovered, the galaxy should be teaming with intelligent life. OTOH, if the odds are extremely low, say one in a trillion, then the odds are that we are the only ones in existence and, maybe the only ones that ever have existed.

It may also be that the chances of even primitive life (organisms capable of reproducing and evolving) developing are relatively high but, the odds of such life becoming "intelligent" i.e. enough to develop technology, may still be extremely low.

Calculations BTW, such as the famous Drake equation, to estimate the amount of intelligent life out there somewhere are therefore pretty meaning less as the calculation involves multiplying together a number of probabilities, one of which is the odds or intelligent life developing on a habitable planet. Such a calculation is no more accurate than the least accurate odds estimation therefore the not uncommon supposition that intelligent life must be prevalent is quite meaningless and, the Fermi paradox is not really the paradox it seems.

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Well... GiqueCee Jun 2 #2
I hear you on that. Reality is often just go fuck yourself. Eko Jun 2 #3
But... GiqueCee Jun 2 #9
There is no reliable way edhopper Jun 2 #4
I've always thought... GiqueCee Jun 2 #10
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the peaceful worldwide civilization on earth does not use electromagnetism. rampartd Jun 2 #25
That is the crucial point. To elaborate a bit, Disaffected Jun 2 #18
This edhopper Jun 2 #21
Wonderful presentation HAB911 Jun 2 #5
that is my belief... ret5hd Jun 2 #6
That is a very plausible explanation. Disaffected Jun 2 #19
It really shouldn't be called a paradox... biocube Jun 2 #7
says who? WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2 #8
So Fermi thought there should be..... SergeStorms Jun 2 #11
Honestly, given human nature, I would probably not contact us at all. Oneironaut Jun 2 #14
Precisely. SergeStorms Jun 2 #24
You "don't partake" in social media? misanthrope Jun 2 #17
It's a website. SergeStorms Jun 2 #23
I think we tend to think of aliens as human-like. Oneironaut Jun 2 #12
You are right. Life elswhere edhopper Jun 2 #16
The Great Filter is superintelligent AI. LudwigPastorius Jun 2 #20
Here is a bit of known data that can go into the calculations edhopper Jun 2 #22
Transcript usonian Jun 2 #26
isn't this where we turn to gawd and his or her bible for answers? rurallib Jun 2 #27
My contribution to the solution space Another Jackalope Jun 2 #28
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