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Sympthsical

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14. What people say vs what they would do
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 01:49 PM
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I think my default is deontology, but a complex world with imperfect context will often leave us at consequentialist crossroads.

I'm currently watching that story with the influencer couple who terminated a pregnancy after the fetus was found to have trisomy 21. Now, there are plenty of people who will say they would never, that it's wrong, what terrible people they are. But let's be honest. Given privacy laws, HIPAA, etc. If they know ironclad no one would find out, how many of those people who are publicly declaring the moral position would make a similar choice when facing those circumstances themselves?

So, I think this is one of those instances where people know they're being polled, they'll say they would do the moral thing, but when the chips are down, well, it's situational.

"It's different when I do it" is practically the unofficial slogan of America.

My answer is, I strive for the deontological, but there are moments in my life where I lose patience, am feeling spiteful, am put in a no-win situation, etc., and it's just "Fuck it. If this is what the universe is giving me to work with, so be it."

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A simple poll [View all] sarisataka Friday OP
When one side has thrown the rule book in the garbage, then all bets are off. -nt CrispyQ Friday #1
This orangecrush Friday #26
Yup. I'm not a big fan of unilateral disarmament. 11 Bravo Friday #27
Would you kill Hitler? Nothing is absolute. Scrivener7 Friday #2
It is a philosophical question so there is no "right" answer sarisataka Friday #6
If you're a time traveler, you don't have to kill Hitler at all Uncle Joe Yesterday #32
Morality is relative to the context and circumstances Fiendish Thingy Friday #3
That is a comparison often brought up sarisataka Friday #8
That's why your poll is flawed logically Fiendish Thingy Friday #10
It is not a poll of logic sarisataka Friday #12
Logic is one essential element of philosophy Fiendish Thingy Friday #13
I tend to view it as a question of values and how seriously we take them. Jedi Guy Friday #15
It's also ironic that the accusations against Platner Fiendish Thingy Friday #17
I don't think she's the only one who's reported borderline violent behavior during past relationships, though. Jedi Guy Friday #18
Her account is the only one I've read alleging violence Fiendish Thingy Friday #21
Logic is a component sarisataka Friday #16
Explaining my "Pass" response Bettie Friday #4
Exactly why I didn't vote obamanut2012 Friday #5
Correct! I can understand why many people prefer a binary choice of this-or-that, black-or-white, up-or-down, etc. QueerDuck Friday #19
You could simply ask sarisataka Friday #24
Yes, I remember it well. It was a position that was secretly supported but publicly excused by many... QueerDuck Friday #25
That "baby Hitler" line made me think of an episode of Family Guy Polybius Friday #31
Need an "it depends" option. Happy Hoosier Friday #7
Not always an either or issue, so I passed jimmy the one Friday #9
That would make it too easy sarisataka Friday #11
What people say vs what they would do Sympthsical Friday #14
I support Rawlsian Liberalism. mr715 Friday #20
That begs the question sarisataka Friday #22
When I took political theory, the floor was the number 20. mr715 Friday #23
Appreciation for all who answered and the discussion sarisataka Friday #28
That was an adept rhetorical flourish, sarisataka mr715 Friday #29
Sometimes the choice is one of bad or worse. GoodRaisin Friday #30
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