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summer_in_TX

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46. Directly saying Rs are lying about voter fraud gets listeners focused on voter fraud.
Wed Jun 10, 2026, 12:44 AM
9 hrs ago

Those who hear that automatically start worrying more about voter fraud. Our talking about it too reinforces their questions.

The far more effective approach is to ask, "Why is Trump/Republicans so afraid of people voting?" Our questions plant the seeds of doubt.

Anything Trump says about “fighting fraud” should only raise the question of why Trump keeps trying to make it harder for people to vote. It will if we focus on those sorts of questions:

Does Trump not want people to vote?
Is he afraid Republicans are going to lose?
Are Republicans protecting him?
Will Trump be impeached if the Republicans lose control of Congress? (He thinks he will be.)
Is he afraid of being held responsible for whatever he is hiding in the Epstein files?
Is Trump going to end up in jail?
Did Trump get caught trying to steal the 2020 election?
Will Trump try to steal the election again?
Does he think he will get caught if he tries?
Is it easier to suppress votes in large quantities than it is to steal them after the fact?
Is that why he is trying to prevent people from voting in the first place?



REFRAMING AMERICA
Why is Trump so Desperate to Keep Us From Voting?
How to reset the agenda of the election debate.
ANTONIA SCATTON
FEB 18, 2026


She says that rather than ignore or deny that election fraud happens our better strategy is:

Our Narrative

Elections in the U.S. are incredibly difficult to steal, and virtually impossible to steal without getting caught. They are run by states and localities, and there are many safeguards in place, but if you have doubts, you should learn more or even sign up to be election workers or observers and help make our elections more secure.

Rather than just avoiding talk about Trump’s attempt to steal elections, we need to make it clear that yes, people do try to steal elections, but they always get caught. Focus on the mechanisms used to safeguard elections, such as that virtually all vote processing happens under the eye of election judges and observers from both parties, and that election results can be and often are verified by hand counts, either of randomly selected precincts or – if necessary – entire elections.

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Numerous states have been wargaming these scenarios Fiendish Thingy 18 hrs ago #1
I do remember all those. Who doesn't love happy endings? EdmondDantes_ 18 hrs ago #7
I expect the happiest of endings in November Fiendish Thingy 18 hrs ago #9
Let me see if I understand you Cirsium 16 hrs ago #24
Yes, that's it precisely. CivicGrief 16 hrs ago #28
Remember how Rudy publically literally melted mr715 16 hrs ago #25
Yes. How about when he lay down on a CivicGrief 15 hrs ago #34
Yes I do. mr715 15 hrs ago #35
"What we're seeing especially in the blue states is fraud, especially in the minority communities." sop 18 hrs ago #2
What is keeping the Dems from coming back with these concrete examples of R senseandsensibility 18 hrs ago #3
First tactic: call out Comer's racism. He's not just making up "fraud", he's claiming it's by minorities muriel_volestrangler 18 hrs ago #4
My sign for No Kings will say wnylib 18 hrs ago #11
Racism is Patriotism - for Whites Only erronis 18 hrs ago #12
Today I learned BaronChocula 17 hrs ago #17
Musk, Thiel, Trump, and their whole cabal. wnylib 16 hrs ago #26
Don't forget Rupert Murdoch Seinan Sensei 46 min ago #47
As Mikey Said, The Fraud Is So Diabolical That Proof Is .... ColoringFool 18 hrs ago #5
Yes I called him out on that yesterday senseandsensibility 18 hrs ago #6
That's the same argument theists use when questioned about proof of god. erronis 16 hrs ago #29
Sorry, but claiming fraud does not win anything for Republicans Wiz Imp 18 hrs ago #8
It buys a little bit more loyalty from low-information voters dickthegrouch 17 hrs ago #13
Yup BaronChocula 17 hrs ago #18
With a simple, consistent message coordinated by all Democrats so it's repeated in the media, people we get it! Chasstev365 18 hrs ago #10
Normalize False Accusations of Voter Fraud 2na fisherman 17 hrs ago #14
Yes, senseandsensibility 15 hrs ago #31
Should capital punishment be considered as a penalty for outright political lies? liberalgunwilltravel 17 hrs ago #15
No, we are not barbarians Dave says 15 hrs ago #38
They are setting up to not swear in Figarosmom 17 hrs ago #16
That's what I believe Dave says 15 hrs ago #39
Bush v. Gore Redux 2na fisherman 14 hrs ago #41
Comer and his brother supposedly committed property transfer fraud. ChicagoTeamster 17 hrs ago #19
Hammer on the fact that they're lying and refute it again and again MustLoveBeagles 17 hrs ago #20
Yes! senseandsensibility 15 hrs ago #33
Unfortunately true. calimary 15 hrs ago #37
South Korea orangecrush 17 hrs ago #21
When Chump says the same thing with impunity (other than Kristen Welker calling him a liar) FakeNoose 16 hrs ago #22
When I saw that after the L.A. mayoral primary was lost by Pratt, I KNEW this going to happen in the mid terms. C Moon 16 hrs ago #23
California is the stupidest idea Mad_Machine76 14 hrs ago #40
Charles Foster Kane school of politics. usonian 16 hrs ago #27
Yep. This is their strategy. kentuck 15 hrs ago #30
Clever and original they are not senseandsensibility 15 hrs ago #32
It is interesting that the same guys that promoted the Big Lie in 2020 are doing it again... kentuck 13 hrs ago #42
It's easy to tell when it's bullshit moose65 15 hrs ago #36
Of course. Fraud! Fraudy fraudy fraud! How do we know? "Everyone knows!" Karasu 13 hrs ago #43
Every time a national Republican 'politician' opens their mouth, it is to spit out a LIE, Jack Valentino 10 hrs ago #44
Projection on overdrive. The whole f'ing R KPN 10 hrs ago #45
Directly saying Rs are lying about voter fraud gets listeners focused on voter fraud. summer_in_TX 9 hrs ago #46
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