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Johnny2X2X

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16. Either way

Wed Jun 17, 2026, 08:27 AM

17 hrs ago

It was a great deal brokered by the US. This deal has nothing close to it in it and it doesn't appear there's any room for most of the main parts of that deal.

Obama and the US should have been proud of that JPCOA deal. It was an absolute great deal and now we're getting garbage.

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Full Text of the 14 point agreement with Iran [View all] Johnny2X2X 18 hrs ago OP

It's insane Johnny2X2X 18 hrs ago #1

Appreciations (and) wyn borkins 18 hrs ago #5

Trump surrendered. sop 5 hrs ago #76

I like "The Islamic Republic of Iran REITERATES that it will never produce nuclear weapons" Prairie Gates 17 hrs ago #11

Yes, total victory for Iran, far better than Obama's deal. As I posted elsewhere, one meme sums it up... thesquanderer 16 hrs ago #28

IANAL but I read a lot of contracts. This feels like the first draft was written by the Iranians. CincyDem 18 hrs ago #2

Or maybe written by Putin. (n/t) thesquanderer 16 hrs ago #33

An absolute complete capitulation. Unbelievable! boston bean 18 hrs ago #3

Remember how big a sticking point the sanctions were in Obama's deal Johnny2X2X 17 hrs ago #7

It wasn't Obama's deal, stop laying the JPCOA solely on him gab13by13 17 hrs ago #14

Either way Johnny2X2X 17 hrs ago #16

Why always 14 points and will the Senate reject them as they did for Woodrow Wilson? Ponietz 18 hrs ago #4

WTAF!!! Phoenix61 17 hrs ago #6

Simply stunning Johnny2X2X 17 hrs ago #9

How can the US speak for the UNSC and the IAEA? maxsolomon 10 hrs ago #68

This is not good for Israel, and it is Netanyahu's own fault. everyonematters 17 hrs ago #8

The Iran hawks are going to lose their minds Prairie Gates 17 hrs ago #10

It's so bad it's embarrassing Johnny2X2X 17 hrs ago #12

The Iranians were right to seek it Prairie Gates 16 hrs ago #21

Trump met none of his prewar objectives, and he is providing enormous financial concessions to Tehran. sop 5 hrs ago #78

I read #1 and quit reading the rest gab13by13 17 hrs ago #13

Trump talking out his ass again Johnny2X2X 17 hrs ago #15

The ONLY reason the U.S. agreed to this completely one-sided MOU YodaMom2 13 hrs ago #57

Probably true Johnny2X2X 13 hrs ago #61

When Iran says USA, does it include Isreal? Those bombs say USA on them. dem4decades 15 hrs ago #37

Hello, gab13by13 17 hrs ago #17

Yeah, who is going to pay Farmer-Rick 16 hrs ago #31

Lokk in the mirror, it's you and me. dem4decades 15 hrs ago #39

Exactly Farmer-Rick 15 hrs ago #46

the 300b is "financing". maxsolomon 10 hrs ago #70

Here's a link to the full text: EarlG 17 hrs ago #18

I guarantee that Iran isn't going to allow ships to pass through Hormuz without its permission. gab13by13 17 hrs ago #19

Tells me Iran was dug in and ready to continue as is indefinitely Johnny2X2X 17 hrs ago #20

Bingo, gab13by13 16 hrs ago #25

Heads I win, tails you lose. jeffreyi 16 hrs ago #22

I think it's so bad because Trump wants to punish the world Johnny2X2X 16 hrs ago #24

IMO, this agreement to negotiate later gab13by13 16 hrs ago #23

Not even sure that will work Johnny2X2X 16 hrs ago #26

What are the specifics people want added? Orangenero 16 hrs ago #27

Inspectors for 1 Johnny2X2X 16 hrs ago #29

The very 1st point, the ending of the war in Lebanon gab13by13 16 hrs ago #32

Could be something to that Johnny2X2X 15 hrs ago #36

The Gulf States were big losers also gab13by13 16 hrs ago #30

I wonder if Qatar will ask for the return of their oversized jet? RainCaster 16 hrs ago #35

This is the most flaccid agreement I've ever seen RainCaster 16 hrs ago #34

The ONLY white flag in this, belongs to the US! 70sEraVet 15 hrs ago #38

To summarize: SamuelAdams 15 hrs ago #40

Yeah and whats this "Investing in Iran" BS I keep reading? Trump going to build hotels there Bengus81 15 hrs ago #42

Sanctions relief includes 24 billion dollars of frozen Iranian money gab13by13 15 hrs ago #44

Getting a load of shrink wrap ready for those pallets of CASH Trump? Bengus81 15 hrs ago #41

'Produce' is not the same as 'Buy', 'Acquire', 'Trade for' Scalded Nun 15 hrs ago #43

Seems like a good deal for Iran Deminpenn 13 hrs ago #58

Nowhere is an inspection regime mentioned... appmanga 15 hrs ago #45

I cant see Congress agreeing to 300 billion Johonny 15 hrs ago #47

Is this a joke? This has to be a joke.... Ol Janx Spirit 15 hrs ago #48

It may be built to fail Johnny2X2X 15 hrs ago #49

That's entirely plausible--and Occam's Razor would also say yes.... Ol Janx Spirit 14 hrs ago #53

Point 1... Bibi says no and continues to bomb Lebanon mountain grammy 15 hrs ago #50

And one of Iran's strategic moves comes to fruition... paleotn 13 hrs ago #55

Netanyahu's forces in Lebanon are getting so lit up by the fiber optic drones Prairie Gates 13 hrs ago #59

I hope so.. mountain grammy 13 hrs ago #60

Israel is not a signatory to this, even though they were one of the parties that launched the war. Nevertheless... Martin Eden 14 hrs ago #51

Yeah Johnny2X2X 14 hrs ago #52

Art of the Deal? More like a Squeal. Martin Eden 14 hrs ago #54

Slightly conditional surrender to Iran Progressive dog 13 hrs ago #56

You remember Trump's demand for unconditional surrender? Sure looks like conditions apply. tclambert 12 hrs ago #62

Point #1 will be violated by Netanyahu within the week by attacking Lebanon. Just watch. Wednesdays 12 hrs ago #63

donnie, the toddler, got his ass handed to him. republianmushroom 12 hrs ago #64

Where's the part that says Iran gives Trump a trophy for most bestest peacemaker? tclambert 12 hrs ago #65

Totally nailed down that coveted Islamic Republican Guard Peace Prize Johnny2X2X 11 hrs ago #67

The MOU is mainly saying they will talk LogDog75 11 hrs ago #66

LOL, the administration panicked and released the exact same 14 points with a few sentences added to try to make it look Johnny2X2X 10 hrs ago #69

But it's actually worse! Johnny2X2X 10 hrs ago #71

This will be scuttled before it's signed. cab67 8 hrs ago #72

AI analysis- Obama deal vs Trump deal TalenaGor 8 hrs ago #73

I never want to hear again... COL Mustard 6 hrs ago #74

Probably $450B Johnny2X2X 5 hrs ago #75

Standard contract "shall" language is missing. Who wrote #4? underpants 5 hrs ago #77

TRUMP LOST WE PAY JoihInMableton 3 hrs ago #79

TRUMP WON WE PAY JoihInMableton 3 hrs ago #80

"while ensuring financing of at least $300 billion" BlueWaveNeverEnd 3 hrs ago #81

And He Signed It at the Palace of Versailles, no less. James48 2 hrs ago #82