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66. I use thunderbird as my email client for gmail accounts....

Thu Jun 18, 2026, 03:35 PM

4 hrs ago

....since the email goes to the gmail server, and the server does not know what client you use (and you might use both), it performs this processing regardless.

I found out about this on my own, when I logged into the google web interface by chance. I only do that maybe once or twice a year since I use thunderbird. It web interface was different and confusing. When I researched how to get it back to what I consider normal, it told me to switch off the "smart" features and it would go back to what I was expecting.

I do not like "smart features" and try to avoid them. But I am not paranoid about "evil AI" or "evil Google." Its a trade off and it is driven by a mass, world wide market, not anyone's individual preferences.

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(Re: Sneaky AI enslavement) If you have a Gmail account, you need to read this. [View all] Justice matters. Yesterday OP

People should do this ASAP. dalton99a Yesterday #1

I have a proton.me account. This post should be shared with EVERYONE you care about. Maru Kitteh Yesterday #2

Yep. I switched to Proton too for that reason. n/t CousinIT Yesterday #5

+1. Proton email is legit. dalton99a Yesterday #6

I have a gmail account but rarely use it. LogDog75 Yesterday #3

Marking for later. yardwork Yesterday #4

Thank you for posting Raven123 Yesterday #7

Thanks for this info, MarineCombatEngineer Yesterday #8

Thank you!!! Scrivener7 Yesterday #9

Bookmarking. n/t area51 Yesterday #10

How is this a threat to our privacy? SSJVegeta Yesterday #11

Link to the Computer Help and Support forum: Justice matters. 3 hrs ago #67

Thanks! I also just got Google ai to explain how Google ai is a threat to privacy lol SSJVegeta 3 hrs ago #70

Thank you for this link!! I will re-edit the OP to include it. n/t Justice matters. 3 hrs ago #73

Thanks for this. NNadir Yesterday #12

Thanks for the heads-up! GiqueCee Yesterday #13

Thanks. Bookmarked. c-rational Yesterday #14

I had smart reply turned off but not the others nuxvomica Yesterday #15

bookmarking to send my son in law and maybe he can do it for me. nt orleans Yesterday #16

KNR and bookmarking. Thank you. I just recently noticed ai crap niyad Yesterday #17

Thanks for this! CapnSteve Yesterday #18

You used your Superpowers for good today. Thank you. ... aggiesal Yesterday #19

This is one way that AI is used for nefarious purposes. patphil Yesterday #20

I have a gmail acct, but I go through the web address, should I do anything different? irisblue Yesterday #21

Kick, and... Justice matters. Yesterday #29

Thx irisblue Yesterday #30

Same question here. (And redo after updates?) TommyT139 Yesterday #31

Link to the Computer Help and Support forum: Justice matters. 3 hrs ago #69

Link to the Computer Help and Support forum: Justice matters. 3 hrs ago #68

This is great info - THANKS! FakeNoose Yesterday #22

Many thanks for this post!!!! alwaysinasnit Yesterday #23

I would surmise... purr-rat beauty Yesterday #24

Yeah but Sergei has already give the GOP fraud and corruption crime family Akakoji 22 hrs ago #42

So bookmarked. Prairie_Seagull Yesterday #25

Rotten bastards! 🤬 SheltieLover Yesterday #26

Thanks! Saving for later. yellow dahlia Yesterday #27

replying for easy retrieval (nt) ret5hd Yesterday #28

Checked everything on my laptop and the settings were already off. Talitha Yesterday #32

Thank you, and bookmarked. GoodRaisin Yesterday #33

The problem is that most people don't care. They give away their privacy to anyone and everyone Wonder Why Yesterday #34

Thanks BaronChocula Yesterday #35

Done, thank you!! debsy Yesterday #36

Google AI categorically denies this.... reACTIONary Yesterday #37

Thank you, but who's to say they are not... lying? (for profits) Justice matters. Yesterday #38

Well, two observations.... reACTIONary 22 hrs ago #40

Well they have lost a few privacy lawsuits in the past. progressoid 7 hrs ago #63

Maybe this will be one more... reACTIONary 5 hrs ago #65

Ty much! sprinkleeninow Yesterday #39

Where? Akakoji 22 hrs ago #41

KnR Alice Kramden 21 hrs ago #43

Thanks for this information! stage left 18 hrs ago #44

Bookmarking for later iemanja 17 hrs ago #45

Thank you for the info, I'm bookmarking this. 👍nt Raine 17 hrs ago #46

YEAH, I've HEARD that Gmail spys on my emails to train their A.I.---- Jack Valentino 13 hrs ago #47

Do these directions apply to iPhone? I have none of these options in my GMail app. Lonestarblue 13 hrs ago #48

Link to the Computer Help and Support forum: Justice matters. 3 hrs ago #71

This is not all that new Gum Logger 12 hrs ago #49

Mine have been fixed for a long time. Liberal In Texas 11 hrs ago #50

k&r rpannier 11 hrs ago #51

Thank you for this. VERY useful. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E 11 hrs ago #52

Thanks but Android doesn't have Menu (☰ → Settings → Select your account → Turn off "Smart features and pers CurtEastPoint 10 hrs ago #53

iPhone doesn't either Ziggy Beans 10 hrs ago #55

thanks...on Android I don't see 'smart features' there. CurtEastPoint 9 hrs ago #57

I don't have the answer but check the link in my reply 72 below if it can help. n/t Justice matters. 3 hrs ago #74

I have Android on my phone and it does have these switches Justice matters. 3 hrs ago #72

thanks, will investigate! CurtEastPoint 2 hrs ago #78

Thanks, but I'm not sure your app instructions are correct Ziggy Beans 10 hrs ago #54

I have a Android Samsung but I don't know about Apple. Justice matters. 3 hrs ago #75

Thank you Justice matters. Did them all! Bookmarked. Clouds Passing 10 hrs ago #56

Thanks. I'll check this later. . . Journeyman 8 hrs ago #58

Thank you Wild blueberry 8 hrs ago #59

What if I use an Outlook client for email instead of a Web browser? DBoon 8 hrs ago #60

I use thunderbird as my email client for gmail accounts.... reACTIONary 4 hrs ago #66

I don't know the answer so I post the link to the DU forum about technical issues. Justice matters. 2 hrs ago #76

If you're looking in the google browser Quanto Magnus 7 hrs ago #61

I have a gmail accoubt, but i don't use it for anything important, so I mzy just get rid of it. ShazzieB 6 hrs ago #64

Thanks for the heads up. However, when I checked my desktop gmail settings, all the smart features were Martin68 7 hrs ago #62

I don't know the answers but maybe DUers know all of them at: Justice matters. 2 hrs ago #77