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DFW

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60. Canada seems to have learned from the mistakes of other countries.
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 02:59 AM
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Germans pay a ton of taxes as well, and legally resident US citizens have it even worse if their job is still in the USA, and they are paid there. US taxes must be paid, and the Germans just ignore parts of the Double Taxation Treaty they find inconvenient or vague, and tax me again on the same income, giving me nothing, as in zero, in return. They even get to take half of my US Social Security payments! No health insurance, no pension, zip. I never asked for a pension, but stupidly believed the myth about what I thought to be the wonderful northern European attitude toward health care. Nope. I was directed to those insurance companies that offered "Privat" health insurance. This was when I got my quote of €30,000 per year out of pocket for "private" health insurance, which meant I paid up front and asked for reimbursement afterward. Dental not included. I was told I had to get that separately.

I don't even know who is the Canadian ambassador to the USA is these days, but i don't envy his task. My dad had to work with the Canadian Ambassador in DC his whole working life, and some of them even became friends. I played in a rock band with Don Ritchie back in the 1960s, and we used to practice in the basement of the Canadian Embassy residence in Washington. Later on, my dad introduced me to Raymond Chrétien in the 1990s. Raymond was the finest foreign service officer for ANY country that I have ever met. He retired when his uncle ceased being PM, and we haven't seen each other in ages, but we keep in touch. After he left Washington at the end of Bill Clinton's second term, he became Ambassador to France, and we occasionally got together in Paris, since I was/am there once a week for my work. When he retired, I was honored to be the only Anglo at his French language farewell party, but it was frustrating because I didn't know anyone! And kudos to Canada for grabbing a former urban castle on the Rue St. Honoré for the embassy residence right after the war for practically nothing. That piece of real estate would have broken the Canadian national budget if you had been forced to buy it today!

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30 years ago lapfog_1 Jun 25 #1
We can only hope popsdenver Jun 25 #2
I can't look. Thanks for posting. I just can't look. Have a great day. twodogsbarking Jun 25 #3
It was peanuts compared to what you'd pay back in the USA DFW Jun 25 #9
I'm glad to see you posting today& that you are well enough to do so. irisblue Jun 25 #4
Thanks for the kind words! DFW Jun 25 #6
Best wishes DFW and thanks for the perspective. ED Evolve Dammit Jun 25 #5
No sweat! I haven't been in an American hospital overnight since 2011. DFW Jun 25 #7
OMG. Thats why med bills are #1 cause of bankruptcy. Evolve Dammit Saturday #65
That was a weird deal with the billing. DFW Sunday #67
It's a money extraction racket, not "health care." Thanks for the info, and yes it is perverse. I just got a denial for Evolve Dammit Wednesday #73
Here's our Canadian Health story Tripper11 Jun 25 #8
Here in Germany DFW Jun 25 #14
Stay Well DFW! We love your posts from across the pond. joanbarnes Jun 25 #10
If I have not been the cause of fatal boredom DFW Jun 26 #37
Heheh blm Jun 26 #52
What good authority? DFW Sunday #68
😁 blm Sunday #69
Ain't freedom to choose your poison relogic Jun 25 #11
Actually, my Doctor in Dallas said I was right to get the procedure done in Germany DFW Jun 25 #15
Yes relogic Jun 25 #18
I left Pennsylvania in 1975, so I'm in the dark about what it is like there now DFW Jun 25 #20
My dear PA relogic Jun 25 #22
We love you, DFW. So happy to hear that everything is going well for you! ❤️ littlemissmartypants Jun 25 #12
As well as can be hoped for, anyway!! I am grateful for your comment!! DFW Jun 25 #21
Many Happy Returns to your bride and condolences for the loss of her mom. ... littlemissmartypants Jun 25 #23
It's amazing what can happen in fifty years! DFW Jun 25 #24
It really is! 🌞❤️ littlemissmartypants Jun 25 #25
Northern Germany, my husband's father Tree Lady Jun 25 #29
You can still get the citizenship without moving there right away. DFW Jun 26 #42
Happy for your outcome but disappointed in the bill......... KS Toronado Jun 25 #13
I'm a legal resident here, so you heard wrong DFW Jun 25 #17
The 19% VAT tax is also used to pay for many of those "free" services MichMan Jun 26 #55
In the US, each state can levy its own state sales tax DFW Sunday #66
There are state and local income taxes on top of the federal income tax MichMan Sunday #70
Simple DFW Sunday #71
Whenever health care is brought up, there are always statements about other countries and how we need to emulate them. MichMan Sunday #72
My Angiogram cost $20k 14 yrs ago. Jacson6 Jun 25 #16
Now THAT is a typical horror story, the likes of which I hear often DFW Jun 25 #19
Living the life. Love that you are at it. cachukis Jun 25 #26
I'm still alive DFW Jun 26 #43
Wisdom pays dividends. cachukis Jun 26 #44
Wow, what a great happy ending story! DFW Jun 26 #45
The best of times, the worst of times. cachukis Jun 26 #46
Sometimes the simple things stand out DFW Jun 26 #47
My grandfather was a supervisor in the Back Bay cachukis Jun 26 #49
Thanks, we intend to try! DFW Jun 26 #54
The Scots certainly woke it up. cachukis Jun 26 #56
It would be basically free here in Sweden, so there's that. Celerity Jun 25 #27
Is that for legal residents, or anyone who shows up? DFW Jun 26 #33
Legal residents. You do not have to be a citizen, just be living here legally. You cannot (of course) come here as a Celerity Jun 26 #35
Medical tourism was, for a while, at least, a concern in Canada DFW Jun 26 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Jun 25 #28
I'm glad you are doing well MustLoveBeagles Jun 25 #30
Thanks! DFW Jun 26 #34
Glad you are ok. I slipped and fell on stairs in a hotel in Beilstein, Germany and dislocated a finger. surfered Jun 25 #31
That sounds typical for all three countries DFW Jun 26 #32
We are in Germany Old Crank Jun 26 #38
If either of you had a German employer, that made all the difference. DFW Jun 26 #40
We took TK insurance Old Crank Jun 26 #58
Thanks! Yes, it so seems to have been successful. DFW Saturday #59
My daughter did her BA abroad in France - TBF Jun 26 #39
Germany is different, not surprisingly. DFW Jun 26 #41
Recommended. H2O Man Jun 26 #48
A socialist country here in Europe. DFW Jun 26 #50
Medical care and education. H2O Man Jun 26 #53
Hospital Bill here in Canada (for Canadians, naturalized included) Justice matters. Jun 26 #51
Canada seems to have learned from the mistakes of other countries. DFW Saturday #60
Thank you for this touching reply. Justice matters. Saturday #64
I've been thinking of you... róisín_dubh Jun 26 #57
My last cardiac episode in the USA was in 2011. DFW Saturday #61
I still feel that it should be completely free, paid with higher taxes Polybius Saturday #62
Thanks for the well-wishes DFW Saturday #63
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