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harumph

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5. A teaching moment for the US left. If you have the power and you're negotiating with assholes, you're losing.

Thu Jul 2, 2026, 09:09 AM

16 hrs ago

I have to say that prior Pope Francis made this possible, and now Leo has executed the plan. This Catholic traditionalists, though they would deny it, are made of the same cloth as the Christian Nationalists.

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Vatican cracks down on a traditionalist group by excommunicating its bishops [View all] dalton99a 16 hrs ago OP

Take Down Opus Dei next! Chasstev365 16 hrs ago #1

+1 dalton99a 16 hrs ago #2

They're dangerous to the general population. rubbersole 15 hrs ago #8

Beat me to it. He does that, and ill be back in there the following sunday with a hundred bucks in my hand. Volaris 14 hrs ago #11

Shady Vance would have to find another religion again. wnylib 5 hrs ago #44

Excommunicate Opus Dei SCOTUS and JD Vance next... hlthe2b 16 hrs ago #3

This! 👆👆👆👆👆 SheltieLover 16 hrs ago #6

ABSOLUTELY! Jilly_in_VA 12 hrs ago #26

This MustLoveBeagles 6 hrs ago #41

Awww, thank you MustLoveBeagles! hlthe2b 5 hrs ago #43

Dang. This Pope might get me back into a church Prairie Gates 16 hrs ago #4

A teaching moment for the US left. If you have the power and you're negotiating with assholes, you're losing. harumph 16 hrs ago #5

Religious fundamentalists of all faiths are made of the same cloth. sop 16 hrs ago #7

this. fanatics (of all breed and stripe) are dangerous stopdiggin 14 hrs ago #10

I have long believed... GiqueCee 13 hrs ago #14

Vance and the KKKatholic Kourt. usonian 15 hrs ago #9

Damn! GiqueCee 13 hrs ago #12

I think it's in Italian, not Latin. nt Wednesdays 13 hrs ago #15

I thought... GiqueCee 13 hrs ago #16

Italian is the working and administrative language of the Vatican. dalton99a 13 hrs ago #17

AHA! GiqueCee 13 hrs ago #19

why a dead language is good for enduring concepts rampartd 7 hrs ago #36

Good point! GiqueCee 7 hrs ago #37

it is why so much law and medicine still use a dead language. rampartd 7 hrs ago #38

Dead languages evolve too. hunter 6 hrs ago #39

mea culpa rampartd 6 hrs ago #42

I know Latin from biology not the law. hunter 4 hrs ago #46

Go Leo! Crack that whip! liberalla 13 hrs ago #13

A good reminder that authoritarians use authority to preserve the system that preserves them 31j20b3 13 hrs ago #18

Non-authoritarians occasionally have to resort to hard leveraging of rules and options harumph 12 hrs ago #20

Yes, especially in a case like this wherein a handful out of thousands of priests 31j20b3 12 hrs ago #21

Oh, I see where you're coming from. harumph 12 hrs ago #22

I suppose it's also a question of shoe-size 31j20b3 12 hrs ago #23

Agreed. That's often the case. harumph 12 hrs ago #24

Yep, and our troubling problem is the few caught on a very long time ago 31j20b3 12 hrs ago #25

sspx : this schism goes back to like 1970 rampartd 5 hrs ago #45

Would a Catholic church named St Pius X be part of that group or not doyou think? mahina 15 min ago #48

You don't understand that this fascist group is the one blm 11 hrs ago #30

Could use a proper name for "this fascist group" just so I can be sure 31j20b3 11 hrs ago #31

TFP. Tradition-Family-Property. They are like the commoner base for Opus Dei elites. blm 11 hrs ago #33

Thanks. I didn't know about TFP, but I'm aware of pfople pushing that 31j20b3 11 hrs ago #34

Exciting times bucolic_frolic 12 hrs ago #27

Good. blm 11 hrs ago #28

Not just the bishops - anyone who "habitually participates" in the society and "formally shares its positions" muriel_volestrangler 11 hrs ago #29

This isn't even the first time SSPX has pulled these shenanigans... sir pball 11 hrs ago #32

Exactly. I was horrified when Benedict removed restrictions on them. blm 10 hrs ago #35

Good. hunter 6 hrs ago #40

I was hoping Vance had been Baptized into Catholicism by SSPX. pat_k 4 hrs ago #47