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Fiendish Thingy

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Thu Jul 2, 2026, 02:51 PM

15 hrs ago

I can’t speak to the ideology of the DSA organization itself, but the vast majority of people who call themselves “Democratic Socialists” are, in reality Social Democrats, which is distinct and different from Democratic Socialism.

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There Are Very Few Socialists in America: Krugman [View all] applegrove 15 hrs ago OP

He's right Fiendish Thingy 15 hrs ago #1

I have been saying this over and over for the 8 years (today is my 8 year anniversary) I have been on DU Celerity 12 hrs ago #16

Happy Anniversary SocialDemocrat61 12 hrs ago #30

thanks so much Celerity 11 hrs ago #35

What's the difference? Farmer-Rick 12 hrs ago #17

It's more than semantics Fiendish Thingy 12 hrs ago #23

I agree AZProgressive 15 hrs ago #2

And, believe it or not, as president, Biden was the closest to a Keynesian since LBJ. Fiendish Thingy 12 hrs ago #24

Like when the Danish PM reminded someone that Denmark's a market economy, not socialist. betsuni 14 hrs ago #3

That reminds me of a quote from Tom Souzzi AZProgressive 13 hrs ago #7

These secret conspire & whine cocktail parties sound intriguing. betsuni 6 hrs ago #36

Oh, and same revolution person said attendees at such Democratic events are "older, whiter, and wealthier" betsuni 4 hrs ago #43

Not only that DFW 4 hrs ago #44

More of us every day. BlueTsunami2018 14 hrs ago #4

Socialism represents public power. Of course Emile 14 hrs ago #5

Absolutely, and, I'm tired of the bad faith false choice. Oneironaut 14 hrs ago #6

But MAGA morons believe Fox, and Trump, and SInclaire radio, NewsMax etc. They're dumb and hateful people ChicagoTeamster 13 hrs ago #8

Great, just please stop using the term "socialist." Say "Democrat." Period. Auggie 13 hrs ago #9

Doesn't matter SurfLiberal 13 hrs ago #10

That word can rally their troops. Like your idea -- stay home. Auggie 12 hrs ago #25

Doesn't mean you have to call yourself one Boo1 12 hrs ago #26

Sorta like the Nordic model Joinfortmill 12 hrs ago #11

social democracy is a foundation for our Nordic Model (I am in Sweden) Celerity 12 hrs ago #13

The elephant in the room that is not being addressed here.. ananda 12 hrs ago #12

This message was self-deleted by its author applegrove 12 hrs ago #14

It is called liberalism in Canada. applegrove 12 hrs ago #15

The Liberal Party of Canada is not a social democratic party, the New Democratic Party is the social democratic party. Celerity 12 hrs ago #27

Small "L" liberalism Fiendish Thingy 12 hrs ago #29

Used to be called that in the US, too. wnylib 6 hrs ago #37

Then the neocons took away the word liberal by making it derogatory. applegrove 6 hrs ago #38

I refused to have it taken from me. There is nothing wrong wnylib 5 hrs ago #41

Liberal and Socialist have been tainted by the Rs and their Big Media 31j20b3 12 hrs ago #18

John Steinbeck quote anamnua 12 hrs ago #19

As soon as the Govt starts bailing out failed "free market" Capitalism, any argument against Govt social programs ToxMarz 12 hrs ago #20

Right you are. Tax breaks for corporations is just a direct applegrove 12 hrs ago #22

That's a consequence of financial deregulations that wnylib 6 hrs ago #39

Regulated capitalism saw capitalism as an economic tool. Capitlists seek to unleash it as a form of governance. ToxMarz 5 hrs ago #42

yup Skittles 4 hrs ago #45

It doesn't matter Cirsium 12 hrs ago #21

Too many FASCISTS in the U.S! Remember in WWII, it was the fascists who REALLY hated the socialists. eom Exp 12 hrs ago #28

In The Third Reich, they merged DFW 4 hrs ago #46

Absolutely. SamuelAdams 12 hrs ago #31

I have a confession to make SocialDemocrat61 12 hrs ago #32

Same here. I have always said that I am a liberal Dem to the left of center, but wnylib 5 hrs ago #40

It gets complicated when you say As In Europe. DFW 3 hrs ago #47

Pretty sad when affordable day care, affordable rent, and affordable transportation are called "socialism". Bluetus 12 hrs ago #33

Sad and disingenuous as well. DFW 3 hrs ago #48

Krugman is tops BaronChocula 11 hrs ago #34

And the supposedly business-friendly Republicans cut Obama's business Stimulus package in half DFW 3 hrs ago #49

Scumbags BaronChocula 47 min ago #50