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31j20b3

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18. Liberal and Socialist have been tainted by the Rs and their Big Media

Thu Jul 2, 2026, 05:14 PM

19 hrs ago

People who care about people might consider operating under a new name. Of course they shouldd choose their own name, but I'd encourage them to choose something that points to their operational goals

Something like, perhaps, party for FAIR-DEALERS

That isn't to say dump the name Democratic Party, but rather use media interactions to press an new association of democrats with the concept of emphasizing policy that produces fair-deals for US citizens.

DEI fits under fair deals. Social Security and Health Care fit under fair-deals. Protecting the poor from the ravages of coporate domination fits under fair-deals.

A little imagination could make the R's jobs a bit more challenging that calling out 60 year old memes from John Birch

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There Are Very Few Socialists in America: Krugman [View all] applegrove 21 hrs ago OP

He's right Fiendish Thingy 21 hrs ago #1

I have been saying this over and over for the 8 years (today is my 8 year anniversary) I have been on DU Celerity 19 hrs ago #16

Happy Anniversary SocialDemocrat61 18 hrs ago #30

thanks so much Celerity 17 hrs ago #35

What's the difference? Farmer-Rick 19 hrs ago #17

It's more than semantics Fiendish Thingy 19 hrs ago #23

I agree AZProgressive 21 hrs ago #2

And, believe it or not, as president, Biden was the closest to a Keynesian since LBJ. Fiendish Thingy 18 hrs ago #24

Like when the Danish PM reminded someone that Denmark's a market economy, not socialist. betsuni 21 hrs ago #3

That reminds me of a quote from Tom Souzzi AZProgressive 20 hrs ago #7

These secret conspire & whine cocktail parties sound intriguing. betsuni 13 hrs ago #36

Oh, and same revolution person said attendees at such Democratic events are "older, whiter, and wealthier" betsuni 11 hrs ago #43

Not only that DFW 11 hrs ago #44

I forgot the canapes: "Some of the wealthiest members of the political establishment are hiding behind closed doors betsuni 1 hr ago #57

When I hear canapes, I always think caviar, which I hate DFW 45 min ago #58

Norman Thomas, perennial socialist candidate, knew FDR was not a Socialist DBoon 32 min ago #59

More of us every day. BlueTsunami2018 20 hrs ago #4

Socialism represents public power. Of course Emile 20 hrs ago #5

Absolutely, and, I'm tired of the bad faith false choice. Oneironaut 20 hrs ago #6

But MAGA morons believe Fox, and Trump, and SInclaire radio, NewsMax etc. They're dumb and hateful people ChicagoTeamster 20 hrs ago #8

Great, just please stop using the term "socialist." Say "Democrat." Period. Auggie 19 hrs ago #9

Doesn't matter SurfLiberal 19 hrs ago #10

That word can rally their troops. Like your idea -- stay home. Auggie 18 hrs ago #25

Doesn't mean you have to call yourself one Boo1 18 hrs ago #26

Sorta like the Nordic model Joinfortmill 19 hrs ago #11

social democracy is a foundation for our Nordic Model (I am in Sweden) Celerity 19 hrs ago #13

The elephant in the room that is not being addressed here.. ananda 19 hrs ago #12

This message was self-deleted by its author applegrove 19 hrs ago #14

It is called liberalism in Canada. applegrove 19 hrs ago #15

The Liberal Party of Canada is not a social democratic party, the New Democratic Party is the social democratic party. Celerity 18 hrs ago #27

They could have had Polliviere Callie1979 6 hrs ago #51

Economically, Carney is making multiple moves that are similar to what Poilievre would do, Celerity 5 hrs ago #54

Small "L" liberalism Fiendish Thingy 18 hrs ago #29

Used to be called that in the US, too. wnylib 12 hrs ago #37

Then the neocons took away the word liberal by making it derogatory. applegrove 12 hrs ago #38

I refused to have it taken from me. There is nothing wrong wnylib 12 hrs ago #41

Liberal and Socialist have been tainted by the Rs and their Big Media 31j20b3 19 hrs ago #18

John Steinbeck quote anamnua 19 hrs ago #19

And that was many decades BEFORE Fox Noise. DFW 5 hrs ago #53

As soon as the Govt starts bailing out failed "free market" Capitalism, any argument against Govt social programs ToxMarz 19 hrs ago #20

Right you are. Tax breaks for corporations is just a direct applegrove 19 hrs ago #22

That's a consequence of financial deregulations that wnylib 12 hrs ago #39

Regulated capitalism saw capitalism as an economic tool. Capitlists seek to unleash it as a form of governance. ToxMarz 11 hrs ago #42

yup Skittles 11 hrs ago #45

It doesn't matter Cirsium 19 hrs ago #21

Too many FASCISTS in the U.S! Remember in WWII, it was the fascists who REALLY hated the socialists. eom Exp 18 hrs ago #28

In The Third Reich, they merged DFW 10 hrs ago #46

Absolutely. SamuelAdams 18 hrs ago #31

I have a confession to make SocialDemocrat61 18 hrs ago #32

Same here. I have always said that I am a liberal Dem to the left of center, but wnylib 12 hrs ago #40

It gets complicated when you say As In Europe. DFW 9 hrs ago #47

Most American voters don't have that background understanding wnylib 4 hrs ago #55

Pretty sad when affordable day care, affordable rent, and affordable transportation are called "socialism". Bluetus 18 hrs ago #33

Sad and disingenuous as well. DFW 9 hrs ago #48

Krugman is tops BaronChocula 18 hrs ago #34

And the supposedly business-friendly Republicans cut Obama's business Stimulus package in half DFW 9 hrs ago #49

Scumbags BaronChocula 7 hrs ago #50

It is a mentality we will never understand, and they exploit that to the max DFW 5 hrs ago #52

He's very wrong TVguyCards 4 hrs ago #56