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BaronChocula

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34. Krugman is tops

Thu Jul 2, 2026, 06:13 PM

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Watched Tur's segment where she interviewed him. Now I'm no economist, but I've been saying for years that it seemed to me, Big Business tried to stymie the economy during the OBAMA RECOVERY by not investing with the excuse of uncertainty. They claimed they were uncertain about the future of their tax rates. They claimed they were uncertain about the strength of the recovery. I'm betting their reluctance was part of why that recovery was frequently described as "anemic."

Krugman brought up "uncertainty" in the interview today framing it as an excuse during the Obama years and compared it to today's environment where Big Business is paying to play with a president whose policies cause nothing but real uncertainty. Yet none of them publicly express any trepidation about his agenda like they did under Obama. The racism and hypocrisy are glaring.

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