Vatican cracks down on a traditionalist group by excommunicating its bishops

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45. sspx : this schism goes back to like 1970

these guys did not like vatican 2. too much change at once. saints like chrisopher and patrick decanonized. it was very hard on the older generation. i wear my father's st christopher medal .

notes for another post

these guys were not excommunicated for doctrinal hair splitting, and their latin rituals could have been accommodated, but there is a firm line at "investiture."

It began as a power struggle between Pope Gregory VII and Henry IV (then King, later Holy Roman Emperor) in 1076.[2] The conflict ended in 1122, when Pope Callixtus II and Emperor Henry V agreed on the Concordat of Worms. The agreement required bishops to swear an oath of fealty to the secular monarch, who held authority "by the lance" but left selection to the church. It affirmed the right of the church to invest bishops with sacred authority, symbolized by a ring and staff.

the investing of bishops is a papal prerogative. confirmed on the battlefield. henry iv (was he a hapsburg?) was beaten so badly that he climbed the mountain to canossa barefoot in the snow to beg gregory to lift his excommunication. kind of like trump in iran but without the market manipulation.

investiture was also a problem in england from henry i through henry viii, who had no problem outlawing catholicism and appropriating church lands. this is what got the archbishop murdered in canterbury cathedral