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Roricka

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23. A little shoeless joe history
Wed May 14, 2025, 12:27 AM
May 2025

Very briefly, some support for Jackson. If you study this, you'll learn quite a few things in Shoeless's favor are fairly well established.
1. He played like the superstar he was in the 1919 world series (the stats are remarkable and include records that stood for years)
2. He said he didn't want the $5,000 that was left in his room and reported the bribe to his superior at the White Sox (owner Comiskey, a notorious skinflint, acted to suppress news of what was occurring until blame could be shifted to the players, especially Jackson.)
3. Although it is true that spending the money was ethically dubious, Jackson was encouraged to do so by crooks and there were never recriminations because of Jackson's series performance.
4. He was formally acquited of felony conspiracy in a court of law.
5. He was functionally illiterate and lied to by people who had an interest in Joe Jackson being the ultimate fall-guy.

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No Hall of Fame for Pete. marble falls May 2025 #1
I am mixed on this topic. Balatro May 2025 #14
Sure. Why not? Nothing matters. Bok_Tukalo May 2025 #2
It won't matter in the least bit to Rose. n/t elocs May 2025 #27
Good grief. Got more rules than Catholic schools. twodogsbarking May 2025 #3
lol. They can't hurt the integrity of the game once they're gone? unblock May 2025 #4
Cheaters angrychair May 2025 #5
Cheaters are not prospering after their deaths because, well, they're dead. n/t elocs May 2025 #28
They will, indirectly angrychair May 2025 #36
My point being, and it's sad I need to explain it, they are DEAD. n/t elocs May 2025 #38
Yes, obviously angrychair May 2025 #39
Yes, other people will profit. ShazzieB May 2025 #41
As a Cincinnati Native, let me say: maxsolomon May 2025 #6
I felt this was coming after Rose's death... appmanga May 2025 #7
Fuck Pete Rose! Tarzanrock May 2025 #8
ha ha that's pretty funny gopiscrap May 2025 #10
Don't stand on the baseline, dimwit! JustABozoOnThisBus May 2025 #11
"If I had played my career hitting singles like Pete Rose, I'd wear a dress" Tarzanrock May 2025 #12
Mantle? Are you sure you're not quoting Dennis Rodman (Trump ambassador to NK) JustABozoOnThisBus May 2025 #13
Dennis Rodman was always a terrible hitter jmowreader May 2025 #16
Unless the veteran's comittee Blackjackdavey May 2025 #9
"Mr. Trump. Please make America Great Again. Pete Rose" Tarzanrock May 2025 #15
I doubt Pete Rose will actually get elected jmowreader May 2025 #17
Regarding this BumRushDaShow May 2025 #18
Recommended. H2O Man May 2025 #19
Well... at this point in time, I agree with all that. They both have paid a high price. Jack Valentino May 2025 #20
I think a manager betting on games is worse than a player taking steroids, although I don't condone that either. red dog 1 May 2025 #21
Always wondered if Giamatti had evidence that Rose bet against the Reds AdamGG May 2025 #22
A little shoeless joe history Roricka May 2025 #23
interesting first post Skittles May 2025 #31
Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote May 2025 #40
Trump wanted this. And MLB made it happen. BadgerMom May 2025 #24
That was my first thought BumRushDaShow May 2025 #26
Guilt Godot51 May 2025 #25
Here in WI I became a Reds fan in '63 when I was just 11. elocs May 2025 #29
Right when I read your post BumRushDaShow May 2025 #30
If Rose is inducted will the ceremony be sponsered by DraftKings? retread May 2025 #32
Kinda over when they pass away? Brainfodder May 2025 #33
Why not. 'Tis the zeitgeist of the time to pardon everyone. n/t malthaussen May 2025 #34
Since corruption is now back in fashion, this makes perfect sense. Borogove May 2025 #35
Well, MLB has deals with gambling interests. They can't have it both ways. n/t FSogol May 2025 #37
Cheaters never DiverDave May 2025 #42
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