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muriel_volestrangler

(105,164 posts)
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 03:01 PM Aug 2025

US and Russia Plan Truce to Cement Putin's Gains in Ukraine [View all]

Source: Bloomberg

Washington and Moscow are aiming to reach a deal to halt the war in Ukraine that would lock in Russia’s occupation of territory seized during its military invasion, according to people familiar with the matter.
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Putin is demanding that Ukraine cede its entire eastern Donbas area to Russia as well as Crimea, which his forces illegally annexed in 2014. That would require Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy to order a withdrawal of troops from parts of the Luhansk and Donetsk regions still held by Kyiv, handing Russia a victory that its army couldn’t achieve militarily since the start of the full-scale invasion in February 2022.

Such an outcome would represent a major win for Putin, who has long sought direct negotiations with the US on terms for ending the war that he started, sidelining Ukraine and its European allies. Zelenskiy risks being presented with a take-it-or-leave-it deal to accept the loss of Ukrainian territory, while Europe fears it would be left to monitor a ceasefire as Putin rebuilds his forces.
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Under the terms of the deal that officials are discussing, Russia would halt its offensive in the Kherson and Zaporizhzhia regions of Ukraine along the current battlelines, the people said. They cautioned that the terms and plans of the accord were still in flux and could still change.

Read more: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-08-08/us-and-russia-plan-truce-deal-to-cement-putin-s-gains-in-ukraine



Archive copy: https://archive.ph/JMVKb

The "master of the deal" just gives other people's lives away. He likes Putin too much to make him give anything up, and gives him a little bonus too. Think of it as a Christmas present to that boss you want to suck up to.

Analysis in a Bluesky thread:

1/ The Trump Administration is reportedly finalising a peace proposal that would allow Russia to take over the entirety of the Donetsk region and force Ukraine to surrender the unoccupied portion. All territory currently occupied by Russia would remain under Russian control. ⬇️

ChrisO_wiki (@chriso-wiki.bsky.social) 2025-08-08T15:17:03.868Z
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We knew Trump would hand over Ukraine to Putin. Irish_Dem Aug 2025 #1
That's not how this works. BidenRocks Aug 2025 #2
It's the Epstein approach to negotiating. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Aug 2025 #8
That is a good way of putting it ck4829 Aug 15 #25
That's more than the Donbas. speak easy Aug 2025 #3
They tried to pull this crap already, and Ukraine/EU just ignored the nonsense. Dump is full of shit. kysrsoze Aug 2025 #4
And will do it again and again! PortTack Aug 2025 #20
The US isn't a party in this. Ukraine should tell both Putin and TSF to go pound salt. sinkingfeeling Aug 2025 #5
It depends whether Trump will continue to supply arms and intelligence, though muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #6
The EU and other countries are beginning to pick up the slack. The US is no longer the major weapons supplier PortTack Aug 2025 #21
The last figure I heard was the US supplying about 30% muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #23
Does Ukraine have any say? dlk Aug 2025 #7
THIS, a million million times over!! bluestarone Aug 2025 #10
Is there a reason they should have a say ... cliffside Aug 2025 #11
It took until your post 7 for this to be pointed out. Fucking depressing. niyad Aug 2025 #15
Good question! ck4829 Aug 15 #24
Trump is showing Quanto Magnus Aug 2025 #9
Tell Putin and Trump very politely... lonely bird Aug 2025 #12
it's between Russia and Ukraine Skittles Aug 2025 #13
FUCK YOU, bloomberg, framing this as though the VICTIM, the ILLEGALLY niyad Aug 2025 #14
I can just see the dynamic duo getting Zelenskiy into the Oval office again, Bayard Aug 2025 #16
Unbelievable DallasNE Aug 2025 #17
Doubt it 200%! Brainfodder Aug 2025 #18
Maybe best if they ask Ukraine. republianmushroom Aug 2025 #19
And he's welcoming a war criminal to the US mcar Aug 2025 #22
Trump gave Puting the RED carpet treatment, BUT then Trump walked away with his tail between his legs!! riversedge Aug 15 #26
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