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49. Rather, this is what happens when republicans politicize and evangelize schools

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'These results are sobering': US high-school seniors' reading and math scores plummet [View all] groundloop Sep 20 OP

Can anyone be suprised? I've written about my frustrations (not only with our youngest, but hlthe2b Sep 20 #1

But the Traildogbob Sep 20 #2

They have the fastest thumbs, though. sop Sep 20 #3

Yes, even in the 80s TexasBushwhacker Monday #61

It's because they don't post the Ten Commandments in every school! Wednesdays Sep 20 #4

They should post Kepler's Laws instead DBoon Sep 20 #17

A.I.is the reason. They're not doing their own work. They have AI to do it. nt pnwmom Sep 20 #5

The decline has been happening since 2015. The article states that they think the reasons are.... chowder66 Sep 20 #6

I agree. They don't read. LisaM Sep 20 #31

I've noticed a decline in my reading stamina since I got a smartphone. yardwork Sep 20 #44

I just finished a 500 pg ebook. I read about 1 - 2 hours a night... electric_blue68 Monday #59

Nonsense. Math skills in grade 12 are formed in primary grades. That's where the problem is. In 2024 AI Bernardo de La Paz Sep 20 #8

It's all connected. High school kids who rely on AI aren't reading on their own, pnwmom Sep 20 #9

AI is so new that it has not had much effect at all on seniors. They were sabotaged years before AI. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 20 #11

I would also point out that moniss Sep 20 #23

I wish I'd had your good math teachers. My high school algebra teacher (9th grade) sucked. 3catwoman3 Sep 20 #35

Republican states keep cutting funding to their public schools. Because they want "vouchers" Walleye Sep 20 #32

So the decline is only in red states? MichMan Sep 20 #36

No, of course, but that certainly contributes to it and the attitude towards education in general Walleye Sep 20 #38

Dumbing down the populist. republianmushroom Sep 20 #7

Dumbing down the populace. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 20 #12

Grooming future Magats, gullible. GreenWave Sep 20 #22

Yup republianmushroom Sep 20 #24

Really Timewas Sep 20 #10

There was a book that came out in the late 1980's... llmart Sep 20 #27

Reading takes too much time! pfitz59 Sep 20 #13

Reading is FASTER than video: so much talk, so much repetition, so little really said. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 20 #29

People post videos for the thrill of being on camera, then talk WAY too much, just to please themselves. eppur_se_muova Sunday #48

Future Republican voters. nt not fooled Sep 20 #14

It's not specifcally Social Media, it's not AI doing this Lithos Sep 20 #15

Been going on for quite awhile. Silent Type Sep 20 #16

Dumbed down curriculum. Mblaze Sep 20 #18

Mental math has always been fun to me and something I work at. Spelling and grammar are important too but content is twodogsbarking Sep 20 #19

Maybe, its because they now know any idiot can be president. Buddyzbuddy Sep 20 #20

There's no comparison in Civics scores since it's no longer being taught. Gimpyknee Sep 20 #21

The ignorance seen recently regarding the First Amendment is proof of that MichMan Sep 20 #43

As a substitute teacher for over 11 years now I have seen the decline and unfortunately the culprit is kimbutgar Sep 20 #25

I don't know what plummet means Tetrachloride Sep 20 #26

I'll help you out. llmart Sep 20 #30

exceeds expectations lol Tetrachloride Sep 20 #46

The pandemic didn't help, either. Ocelot II Sep 20 #28

Oligarchs have always known that if they are to control this country and rule, they must do the following: ancianita Sep 20 #33

I have one quibble OrwellwasRight Sep 20 #45

Point well taken. Since Ivies are full of entitled prep school kids, even for them it still holds true that one only ancianita Sep 20 #47

How timely OrwellwasRight Monday #56

Well off suburban public schools as well exboyfil Sunday #53

Yes. The property tax base of school districts perpetuates funding inequities and socioeconomic hierarchies of ancianita Sunday #55

Future MAGA Voters Coldwater Sep 20 #34

My (step)grandkids don't know their math facts sorcrow Sep 20 #37

Good that you try to help. Math is much more methods & a frame of mind than facts and much more than arithmetic. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 20 #40

That's an interesting statement. Explain more please. electric_blue68 Monday #60

Check the timeline- teaching to the test under NCLB JCMach1 Sep 20 #39

You can place a large amount of blame on No Child Left Behind legislation. flashman13 Sep 20 #41

Not too surprising after shutting down schools for a year and substituting remote learning MichMan Sep 20 #42

Rather, this is what happens when republicans politicize and evangelize schools LearnedHand Sunday #49

It's a lazy non-think thing, common in countries where parents and kids think they are going to get by on luck. Aussie105 Sunday #50

and speaking of education or lack of Coldwater Sunday #51

My house had lots of books nitpicked Sunday #52

The last thing the ruling class wants is an educated population. MrsCheaplaugh Sunday #54

Also, have people listened to this podcast on teaching reading? OrwellwasRight Monday #57

Also a proxy for the increasing number of children being raised in poverty IbogaProject Monday #58