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Wiz Imp

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15. Thing is, he knows what he is saying is a lie. Trump could say and believe it.
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 10:38 AM
Dec 24

But Lutnick knows that what he is saying isn't true, but he thinks lying to the world is perfectly acceptable.

Explanation for why the GDP number is wildly misleading (You'll notice that none of the primary reasons for the increase in GDP as outlined below actually do anything to improve the economic conditions for most Americans. AI Spending and Defense spending is only helping people who work for these small number of companies. Imports decreasing because of tariffs doesn't help Americans because when they replace them with American made products, the cost is higher.):

1. AI spending accounts for roughly half of the increase

2. Defense spending is helping to buoy the economy as well

3. Imports have continued to decrease while exports have increased slightly driving the number higher due to the way this is calculated

4. Inflation is persistent and the bottom half of the country (or more potentially) is still struggling while the affluent are driving consumer spending to a sufficient level to increase GDP.

This last point is one worth looking at a little further. The BEA reported that most of this spending came from healthcare purchases. So it seems likely the a good deal of the affluent spending is coming from older Americans who have benefited the most from the explosion of asset prices while the rest of the country struggles, especially if those Americans aren't having their parents helping them out.


https://www.reddit.com/r/Economics/comments/1ptwrl7/us_gdp_grew_at_a_blistering_43_pace_in_the_third/

Government spending is also up which is artificially increasing the GDP.

GDP = C + I + G + (X − M)

where C = consumption, I = investment, G = government spending X = exports and M = imports.


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That's the stupidest thing I've heard in quite a while, no doubt Trump will share it in ALL CAPS. sop Dec 24 #1
That'll be the new MAGat "talking point" BumRushDaShow Dec 24 #2
Hold his beer. Nutlick math. 700% underpants Dec 24 #4
They have invented the new Maga math... ananda Dec 24 #19
Have to Rebl2 Dec 24 #13
Homeschooling works good. travelingthrulife Dec 24 #14
Besides the ubiquitous "that's not how any of this works".... paleotn Dec 24 #3
And we all will grow 4.3% taller! Someone needs to explain this to him. tblue37 Dec 24 #5
He doesnt need it explained. He is fully aware johnnyfins Dec 24 #7
While I Support That Opinion... ProfessorGAC Dec 25 #27
Compulsive liar and idiot. What a combination. littlemissmartypants Dec 24 #6
Uh-huh. "The check is in the mail." Wednesdays Dec 24 #8
In case anyone was wondering how he got the name Turbineguy Dec 24 #9
Republicans never could do math. That's why every time they are in power.. CousinIT Dec 24 #10
Oh, good! lonely bird Dec 24 #11
4.3% is actually the amount of grey matter he uses. twodogsbarking Dec 24 #12
Thing is, he knows what he is saying is a lie. Trump could say and believe it. Wiz Imp Dec 24 #15
Where the fuck are my DOGE rebate, SS addition, and Tariff rebate checks???? ProudMNDemocrat Dec 24 #16
Trump: "I want my new Fed Chairman to lower Interest Rates if the Market is doing well, not destroy the Market" progree Dec 24 #17
Then you'll be raising Social Security 4.3% immediately, correct? CanonRay Dec 24 #18
Anyone believing we had 4.3% growth is delusional relayerbob Dec 24 #20
Oh another thing, according to the Commerce Dept, the economy did NOT grow by 4.3% in the 3rd quarter progree Dec 24 #21
Brilliant Lulu KC Dec 24 #22
Where is Rod Serling when you need him? BumRushDaShow Dec 24 #23
Ain't that the truth! n/t Lulu KC Dec 24 #24
BS ... that's all. KPN Dec 24 #25
Generally speaking, we want a Commerce Secretary who understands math. yardwork Dec 24 #26
Simple to spout bullshit when your a Billionaire Bengus81 Dec 25 #28
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