No clear path to ending the partial government shutdown as lawmakers dig in over DHS oversight

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17. To be clear. I dont think many if any

are advocating for a complete lack of immigration control. Although, funny enough to me, that was, at least until fairly recently, a fairly popular stated POV amongst a number of fairly hard right libertarians that I know. However, abolishing ICE does not mean open borders or we ignore crime or any such nonsense. We had border controls and law enforcement long before ICE was even a gleam in the Rights eye.

ICE is not what we need, and can never be what we need. It is corrupt from the inside out. It is not reformable or redeemable. It should be proactively shut down, dissolved, and if we are being honest all employees blacklisted from future government service. I would accept just never providing it another dime of government funding and letting it wither as a second best alternative.