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43. Lutnik and his sons (and other Wall Streeters) will make "astronomical sums" from this SC decision.
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 11:30 AM
Feb 20

'Lutnick Family Angling To Make Astronomical Sums Off Court Nixing Tariffs'

(TPM) "This is not new. But I at least hadn’t heard any of these dots connected. I wasn’t even aware of the dots. A friend mentioned to me over the weekend that he’d heard about Wall Streeters buying up the rights to tariff refunds from big corporate importers. So the idea is that a Wall Street firm goes to an importer and says, you’ve now paid $10 million in tariffs. I’ll pay you $2 million right now for the right to collect the refund if courts ever end up deciding the tariffs were illegal. My friend had also heard that one of the most aggressive buyers was Cantor Fitzgerald, the firm until recently headed by Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick and now run by Lutnick’s sons. Twenty-something Brandon Lutnick, pictured above on the left in a 2016 photo, is the current chairman of Cantor Fitzgerald. (He must be hella talented!)"

"Damn, I thought: That’s a hot story, crooked as the day is long. But I’m not sure how I or we would track it down without better finance world sources. Still, it was worth some quick googling. It turns out this is happening and Cantor’s role has already been reported. Wired and others reported this more than a month ago."

"In mid-July, according to Wired, Cantor was buying up the rights to your potential tariff refund at between 20 and 30 cents per dollar. Needless to say, I bet that price has gone up a lot since last Friday’s federal appellate court upheld the lower court ruling that almost all of Trump’s tariffs are illegal. So in paper terms Cantor has probably already made a ton of money on this."

"Now, before going any further I want to make clear that in itself this transaction is fairly unremarkable. A huge amount of modern finance is about making bets on uncertain outcomes, bets which can be structured in various ways. It might be commodities futures. In this case, it’s the right to collect a refund that may never happen. The sale of debt — a ubiquitous feature of modern finance — is similar. Purchasing debt, whether it’s a government bond or your home mortgage, is fundamentally a bet on the likelihood of repayment. I don’t want to belabor the point, only to make clear that the transaction in concept is neither outlandish or suspect, at least no more than any other part of modern finance."

"All that said, it’s hard to imagine anything more emblematic of the Trump Era than what is for all intents and purposes still the Commerce Secretary’s company (yes, yes, arms length hand off to his twenty-something sons) making bets on something Lutnick himself has significant influence over. Indeed, far more important than whatever influence Lutnick has over tariff policy is that significant visibility he has into the bet’s probable outcome."

More at link:

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/lutnick-family-angling-to-make-astronomical-sums-off-court-nixing-tariffs

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I'm betting Trump will somehow also cash in...

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Nice but will Mr. Dump follow the ruling? mdbl Feb 20 #1
He claimed he had "alternative methods" BumRushDaShow Feb 20 #2
There is another law that allows a president to impose tariffs in an "emergency" Fiendish Thingy Feb 20 #13
SCOTUSBlog had a little discussion on that BumRushDaShow Feb 20 #18
Of course he did. Joinfortmill Feb 20 #27
Bombing Iran is the "alternative" that will justify an "emergency". live love laugh Feb 21 #85
I would be surprised if that "limited strike" didn't happen this weekend BumRushDaShow Feb 21 #86
Everybody knows that NJCher Feb 20 #24
I think the correct question is tavernier Feb 20 #83
Thomas, Alito and Kavanaugh keep their lips firmly oasis Feb 20 #3
Seriously, they don't care about the existing law, Constitution, or precedent. mdbl Feb 20 #6
Each one has a personal history of corruption. oasis Feb 20 #15
Like other Republicans they aim more towards the middle of his cheeks and it involves their tongues more than their lips cstanleytech Feb 20 #7
They have no shame. Zero oasis Feb 20 #14
You have to hand it to them: Aristus Feb 20 #21
A memo to all White House employees...... louis-t Feb 20 #4
Iran, girl, you in danger! Prairie Gates Feb 20 #9
They are as good a distraction as any! nt Shermann Feb 20 #55
EMERGENCY ALERT!! wnylib Feb 20 #44
So, they gave him the idea that he had immunity, and now it's their privilege to pull back Baitball Blogger Feb 20 #5
For Alito and Thomas to dissent is obvious, but for Kavanaugh to do so is really telling Prairie Gates Feb 20 #8
Better part of a million, as I recall from Drunky McJustice's hearing . . . hatrack Feb 20 #12
Boof Squee BeerBeerBeer!!! VGNonly Feb 20 #65
Hahahaha!! As if Kavanaugh has any "fundamental principles" AZ8theist Feb 20 #31
Thomas & Alito was no surprise, Kavanaugh was IMO KS Toronado Feb 20 #32
Someone must have reminded him YodaMom2 Feb 20 #49
Too bad his buddy Jeffrey is no longer around not fooled Feb 20 #38
Hey, child fucker, perch on this Aviation Pro Feb 20 #10
No surprise that the nazi enablers, alito, thomas, and kavanaugh disented. They don't believe in lostincalifornia Feb 20 #11
They are sucking Trump's ass. Ray Bruns Feb 20 #20
They'll be getting the rebates ;) n/t Cheezoholic Feb 20 #42
What is tRump's Plan B. BigmanPigman Feb 20 #16
How about shucking his bloated mortal coil? Aviation Pro Feb 20 #17
Some people make the world a better place wnylib Feb 20 #45
It's reported that he's seeking a "workaround". oasis Feb 20 #22
A.K.A reach around.. BattleRow Feb 20 #84
National emergency declaration coming soon! WestMichRad Feb 20 #25
Exactly. With Trump, everything is an emergency. Marie Marie Feb 20 #76
Justices Clarence Thomas, Brett Kavanaugh, and Samuel Alito dissented" Ray Bruns Feb 20 #19
It sickens... GiqueCee Feb 20 #29
Ha ha! WestMichRad Feb 20 #23
Squeaked by, thank God. Joinfortmill Feb 20 #26
kavanrapist is a stooge samsingh Feb 20 #28
🎼Roll back the tariffs we'll have a barrel of fun.🎼 oasis Feb 20 #30
Deadline Legal Blog-Supreme Court rules Trump doesn't have the tariff authority he claimed LetMyPeopleVote Feb 20 #33
Thank you BRDS, this is good news mahina Feb 20 #34
Roberts delivered the opinion/judgment of the Court. Thomas, Alito, and Kavanaugh dissent.🚨 riversedge Feb 20 #35
The ultimate cancel culture. nt Xipe Totec Feb 20 #36
Some tariffs were imposed because of 'attitude' of foreign leaders, or judicial actions of nations TSF wiggs Feb 20 #37
Right. 70sEraVet Feb 20 #67
So is inventing law out of whole cloth an OFFICIAL duty of the president? bucolic_frolic Feb 20 #39
Why did this take so LONG!?! This should have happened a year ago.... FakeNoose Feb 20 #40
Orange pedo should have to personally repay the tariffs moonshinegnomie Feb 20 #41
Lutnik and his sons (and other Wall Streeters) will make "astronomical sums" from this SC decision. sop Feb 20 #43
Standing with billionaires. Distancing from trump. Bluetus Feb 20 #46
I honestly don't believe that the companies deserve to get much if any money back. cstanleytech Feb 20 #47
Trump should have to pay refunds out of his personal fortune to all of us. Linda ladeewolf Feb 20 #48
my guess was gorsuch alito and thomas. barbtries Feb 20 #50
Thomas, Alito, and Kavanaugh just showed us . . . AverageOldGuy Feb 20 #51
A non-treasonous decision from this Supreme Court? hay rick Feb 20 #52
"A non-treasonous decision from this Supreme Court?" BumRushDaShow Feb 20 #54
They are who we think they are. hay rick Feb 20 #58
Supreme Court Justices don't write the laws, they just interpret them FakeNoose Feb 20 #56
The way-out wacky ones seem to be in the majority lately.... NowsTheTime Feb 20 #79
So I would assume angrychair Feb 20 #53
Consider the complications FakeNoose Feb 20 #60
I get it angrychair Feb 20 #68
I hope you're right, because they OWE us, Chump owes us FakeNoose Feb 20 #69
The class actions where the lawyers pocket a substantial portion and the plaintiffs get a token amount? MichMan Feb 20 #73
I agree angrychair Feb 20 #74
Columbia didn't pay the tariffs; you did....to the federal government. Columbia was disenfranchised by the tariffs NowsTheTime Feb 20 #78
So you're saying all the American Importing companies kept the tariff money? FakeNoose Feb 20 #80
I can't say for sure I guess .....and no, we will never get the money back, Federal gov't collected it. NowsTheTime Feb 20 #81
It looks like the political hacks on this "court," if we call this arm of legal.... NNadir Feb 20 #57
They only thing that makes them move is BumRushDaShow Feb 20 #59
We can only hope this will finally make trump stroke out Bayard Feb 20 #61
At this point I'll settle for prices coming back down about 15 or 20% FakeNoose Feb 20 #66
Trump will announce that SCOTUS is the deep state & should be dissolved, in 5, 4, 3, ... aggiesal Feb 20 #62
I want my fucking refund check..... NOW!!!! LilElf70 Feb 20 #63
Dems, listen up. The magic word of 2026 is CLAWBACK Bluetus Feb 20 #64
"...signature economic policy." MorbidButterflyTat Feb 20 #70
Tariffs are gone, but prices will continue to go up... malthaussen Feb 20 #71
I'd have bet money that they'd simply rubber-stamp it 6:3 Orrex Feb 20 #72
IIRC, this lawsuit was brought by a Leonard Deminpenn Feb 20 #75
So half of the republican members of the Supreme Court still support the Constitution thought crime Feb 20 #77
In all honesty... SirReal69 Feb 20 #82
Early days yet to worry about getting the tariff money back that you paid. Aussie105 Feb 21 #87
Kick ck4829 Monday #88
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