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flashman13

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37. So your answer is to provide more targets. Numbers and brute force can not negate the defensive
Thu Mar 12, 2026, 04:27 PM
18 hrs ago

advantage of modern technologies. This is especially true when dealing with a situation in the extremely confined area of the Straits.

As near as I can tell, there are fewer than 40 (maybe as few as 30) destroyers available at this moment capable of taking to sea. Four are with each carrier battle group. That is 16 ships unavailable for escort duty. That leaves 14 to 24 others. The navy would certainly not send all of them to one place.

IMHO The idea that we can pull off some sort of "gutsy" escort service without suffering grievous losses is just magical thinking. If events prove my analysis incorrect, right here on DU, I will man up and admit that EX500rider was right and I was wrong. I truly hope that Trump doesn't put this to the test by sending our sailors in harms way.

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Gosh, it's like you can't believe anything Trump says. tanyev Yesterday #1
The Navy has 76 operational Destroyers EX500rider Yesterday #2
Enough unless the Iranians launch a mass drone swarm and the ship runs out of ammunition before the flashman13 22 hrs ago #12
Wait another week or two other countries wil be stepping into escort their own tankers EX500rider 21 hrs ago #14
No they won't. The military situation is the same for everyone. Iran owns the Straits of Hormuz. flashman13 20 hrs ago #20
" No they won't." Pakistan already announced they are EX500rider 19 hrs ago #22
There are two possibilities here. They have already cut a deal with Iran or their ships will be sunk. flashman13 19 hrs ago #31
Or Iran will add one more country they are at war with EX500rider 19 hrs ago #32
"The reality is that none of those 76 destroyers are available." They can be. EX500rider 19 hrs ago #24
So your answer is to provide more targets. Numbers and brute force can not negate the defensive flashman13 18 hrs ago #37
They can also create distance at the narrowst place the straight is 21 Mi wide but the channel runs down the middle EX500rider 18 hrs ago #38
DE- ruet 14 hrs ago #43
Yeah I don't need your permission or approval to post on subjects EX500rider 13 hrs ago #45
Nonsense henbuck 18 hrs ago #34
Why does the DoE have anything to do with escorting tankers? Hugin Yesterday #3
Wouldn't be the 1st time EX500rider 19 hrs ago #23
This was posted earlier by someone else but it's an amazing watch, 32 minutes long wolfie001 Yesterday #4
I wonder quakerboy 22 hrs ago #10
Thanks for this. We moonscape 21 hrs ago #17
You're welcome wolfie001 19 hrs ago #21
I looked at the video moonscape 12 hrs ago #46
Well thanks for that wolfie001 3 hrs ago #48
No, the naval vessels rely on their own Aegis Combat System radar. EX500rider 19 hrs ago #25
Well, the lack of shipping right now is an indication of a breakdown somewhere in the defense chain wolfie001 19 hrs ago #27
The US destroyer and mine sweeper vessels will take some time to get there from all around the globe EX500rider 19 hrs ago #28
Do these numbnuts even know what mines are and how they work? Girard442 Yesterday #5
They say Trump is playing chess and he's six moves ahead of us. JohnnyRingo Yesterday #6
More like 3-dimensional tiddly winks... ananda 22 hrs ago #9
LOL! Haven't heard Tiddly Winks in a long time. JohnnyRingo 21 hrs ago #13
LOL ananda 16 hrs ago #40
They say Trump is playing chess and he's six moves ahead of us. (illustrated) usonian 19 hrs ago #26
Stooges JohnnyRingo 18 hrs ago #33
When Donald is long gone, buried beneath the 18th hole somewhere, the Stooges will claim the spoils as rulers. usonian 18 hrs ago #35
You would need a 250,000 troop invasion of the Iranian side of the Strait Prairie Gates Yesterday #7
This is why the W admin dropped any talk of taking on Iran Strelnikov_ 23 hrs ago #8
It's not that they're busy as much as they haven't quite figured out how much to charge per transit... EarthFirst 22 hrs ago #11
Naval escorts are not the issue AverageOldGuy 21 hrs ago #15
Exactly. And Trump is saying taxpayers will provide reinsurance to Bluetus 18 hrs ago #36
Tankers bromeando 21 hrs ago #16
A public announcement that Trump lied. Again. Martin68 21 hrs ago #18
I suspect our Navy vessels woulld be sitting ducks in the Strait. Martin68 21 hrs ago #19
Iran is a much larger country with more drones than Ukraine bucolic_frolic 19 hrs ago #30
Not exactly sitting ducks Red Mountain 17 hrs ago #39
I call them sitting ducks because the is very little room for mobility and they are close to land on both sides. Martin68 13 hrs ago #44
If you destroy "the manufacturing industry that supplies their offensive capabilities" bucolic_frolic 19 hrs ago #29
But Bessent said it is!!!!! Grins 16 hrs ago #41
Encouraging vessels to just go for it is insane. But that's where we are under Orange Julius. n/t Evolve Dammit 15 hrs ago #42
Probably in two weeks. BWdem4life 10 hrs ago #47
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