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DFW

(60,636 posts)
4. I think the obvious solution is to not be simple
Thu Jun 11, 2026, 05:28 AM
Yesterday

Find a solution that at least will not lead to capital flight. Maybe raise the cap drastically and lower the rate a little to make it easier on people with modest income, and make the tax bite appear to be less painful to those whose taxes will go up by telling them, “but we lowered your tax rate!”

As it is, I pay 50% of what I receive to the German government (no 15% exclusion if you live overseas), and pay another $10,000 in SS taxes to Washington, since I still work full time. I get to keep a little under a third of my payout. Maybe they could restructure that, too. It’s pointless to send me a certain sum every month when over two thirds of it just goes back to governments. If they raise the cap 100%, I’ll net close to zero, and if they triple it, I’m net negative, and it’s not like I make a half million dollar salary.

Make a reform sensible and palatable to all citizens, and they might even get somewhere. A blanket “tax the rich” is no more useful a slogan than “don’t tax anybody.” Specifics and cooler heads are needed here, and I like the idea of it being addressed by Senators who are invulnerable to attacks by an opponent in an election. The downside is they don’t have a lot of time to make progress. If they are serious about this, they shouldn’t be looking forward to many weekends off in the near future. I hope they get a lot of discreet help from other Senators who are not concerned with having their names on the bill, so they can’t be the target of Fox-engineered attacks on the air.

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no awards for moral courage for this bunch after ignoring the problem for years msongs Yesterday #1
No, but probably only lame ducks felt free enough to do this DFW Yesterday #3
But removing the cap technically isn't raising taxes, it's just adjusting contributions. nt in2herbs Yesterday #18
To anyone who would have to pay more of their paycheck than they do now DFW 21 hrs ago #30
They're not all lame ducks. ShazzieB Yesterday #26
The obvious simple solution is to raise or, better yet, remove the cap on income levels... GReedDiamond Yesterday #2
I paid double the SS for nearly 40 years being self employed years ago Bengus81 Yesterday #10
Exactly, Thune always has a mealy mouthed response/retort... IthinkThereforeIAM Yesterday #19
I completey agree they should remove the cap jgmiller Yesterday #24
I think the obvious solution is to not be simple DFW Yesterday #4
Most of these people are so wealthy they would not miss this money. travelingthrulife Yesterday #6
They might have to pay for a tank of fuel for their 400' yacht Bengus81 Yesterday #11
Right, none of them are going to be faced with eviction or have their diet changed... IthinkThereforeIAM Yesterday #20
The other solutions all are politically unpopular. SamuelAdams Yesterday #7
Do what we do for all of the wars -- borrow. Also, Obama managed to extend the date by a year. Nt lostnfound Yesterday #9
Bush like Trump wants SS privatized so some bud of theirs can get hold Bengus81 Yesterday #12
Social Security Trustees are all MAGA Kid Berwyn Yesterday #5
And that was intentional... IthinkThereforeIAM Yesterday #21
Project 2025 is MAGA for Urinary Executive (Trickle Down Forever) Kid Berwyn Yesterday #23
What a waste to work for 45 years and to spend money helping those who needed it lostnfound Yesterday #8
(a percent of which comprises the revenue). mdbl Yesterday #15
100% could come from wages, if wages had kept pace with productivity or with CEO pay lostnfound 1 hr ago #37
Maybe the 4 Senators can come up with good ideas Buddyzbuddy Yesterday #13
REMOVE. THE. CAP. TygrBright Yesterday #14
Exactly, let everyone pay the same percentage on their Payroll Tax obligation. It is simply a huge gift to the Exp Yesterday #27
Precisely! CoopersDad 19 hrs ago #33
Experts like Paul Krugman say vary affordable fixes are available to keep SS solvent. Republicans insist on holding SS Martin68 Yesterday #16
There is no "solvency" issue. It is bullshit. valleyrogue Yesterday #17
It's like saying the USPS loses money. Bullshit. nt. druidity33 19 hrs ago #31
"3 of the 4 won't be there next year, not just Cassidy and Tillis but Durbin too." Wednesdays Yesterday #22
"And what are they going to do when The Felon vetoes their bill?" BumRushDaShow Yesterday #25
It's not hard ...get rid of the cap or make the donut plan JT45242 Yesterday #28
During COVID in 2020, I bought a house. mnhtnbb Yesterday #29
Are you also making 2X monthly payments? CoopersDad 19 hrs ago #34
No, right now short term interest rates mnhtnbb 18 hrs ago #36
Eliminating the payroll cap would solve the problem. Any Democrats who suggest anything else are not Democrats. Dangling0826 19 hrs ago #32
Gee whiz Katcat 18 hrs ago #35
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