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94. If you want to fly on a commercial airline, yes.
Tue Jul 14, 2026, 09:29 AM
5 hrs ago

Paying your money to a for-profit airline in order to use their product means giving up a lot of personal freedoms. Or maybe you're sent by your employer on this trip as part of your job.

Flying on a commercial plane means experiencing the indignity of waiting in line to take off some of your clothes and have your body scanned or patted down by strangers, have your possessions gone through, possibly have your own property broken into and searched, etc. I can tell you from personal experience that as a woman it's not fun to "assume the position" spreadeagled in a plastic tube while federal employees look at your body in front of hundreds of people. It's not fun to have a personal item that matters to me removed from my luggage, angrily shown to me, and then thrown in a trash can in front of me. And that is if all goes well. Pity the people who are told to "follow me" by TSA agents. Wonder what happens to them, especially if they're immigrants.

And let me tell you if you're brown, like my wife, all this scrutiny is ramped up. She is always, always patted down. A 70 year old woman whose ancestors have been in this country for thousands of years.

Then you get to sit in a chair that is much too small for a grown human, tightly surrounded by other people who are sitting much too close to one another, in a tube with too little oxygen. Maybe some of those people are crying babies. Maybe some of them are panicking. Quite a few of them are drinking. Some of them brought strong smelling food with them. The one in front of you just reclined his seat into your lap. Forget it if you're claustrophobic. Say the serenity prayer over and over.

And then maybe you sit in that tiny space jammed with other people on the tarmac for hours. The bathroom toilets overflow and human sewage runs down the aisles. And the airline won't let you off. You are a mile from the gate and nobody - not even the pilot - knows when you can either take off into the air or return to the gate. Sometimes this lasts for hours. Google news reports.

But most of the time it's not "extreme" enough to make the news. Like the time I waited through delay after delay for ten hours to board a flight out of LGA only to have the flight cancelled at midnight. Options were to spend the night in the dark terminal or get a hotel room - which I did, no luggage of course, it was supposed to be a day trip up and back - only to return to the airport the next day to learn my flight was cancelled again. Finally got home 24 hours after I'd arrived at LGA for a 1.5 hour flight.

So yeah. There is nothing about flying on a commercial airplane that is dignified, that retains any constitutional rights as far as I can tell.

And somebody wants to enter this chaos wearing a shirt that says "bombing kids."

There is not one person on that flight who wants that kind of performance right then.

Oh hell no.

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Did his darker skin (visible in picture) RockCreek Yesterday #1
Hmmmm - let's guess. 3catwoman3 Yesterday #3
Or three guesses, first two don't count....🤔 littlemissmartypants Yesterday #6
Hmmm.... OldBaldy1701E 6 hrs ago #92
I'm not offended. badhair77 Yesterday #2
"How dare you prick my conscience... AloeVera Yesterday #4
Who supported bombing kids? yardwork Yesterday #12
The person "offended". AloeVera Yesterday #18
???? yardwork Yesterday #19
You are somehow conflating two very distinct policies. AloeVera Yesterday #30
There must be a more detailed article that is being referenced here. yardwork Yesterday #31
Since you believe a policy against offensive attire and one on endangering public safety are one and the same... AloeVera Yesterday #45
I appreciate your research into this. yardwork Yesterday #46
I appreciate your research into this. yardwork Yesterday #47
Lack of research is not the problem here. AloeVera Yesterday #51
It's not a question of enforcing a long-standing policy SpankMe Yesterday #39
We all know what the shirt refers to TBF Yesterday #68
Airlines treat flying as a privilege, not a right. yardwork Yesterday #69
lol - yes all of that is factual TBF Yesterday #70
I'm certainly not defending it. yardwork 23 hrs ago #71
Wearing a shirt is not defacing property - TBF 23 hrs ago #73
We all must kowtow to our corporate masters Farmer-Rick 6 hrs ago #93
If you want to fly on a commercial airline, yes. yardwork 5 hrs ago #94
What the heck United? One of your flight attendants found that offensive? Biophilic Yesterday #5
Welcome to the United States of Authoritarianism. littlemissmartypants Yesterday #8
Here's what I would have told the personnel he spoke with BaronChocula Yesterday #64
Any reference to bombing or bombs gets anyone kicked off planes, yardwork Yesterday #7
My thought exactly. And good morning. NT mahatmakanejeeves Yesterday #9
Good morning! yardwork Yesterday #10
Maybe she should have explained that policy whathehell Yesterday #16
Sounds like she did. yardwork Yesterday #17
As the passenger said, whathehell Yesterday #41
According to the article, that's exactly what happened. yardwork Yesterday #42
"joked about a bomb" ... VERY DAMNED DIFFERENT. Again CONTEXT matters. hlthe2b Yesterday #50
I read your report of the article whathehell Yesterday #52
You might be responding to the wrong post? yardwork Yesterday #54
You are correct whathehell Yesterday #58
No worries at all. yardwork Yesterday #61
Good.. whathehell Yesterday #66
You are correct whathehell Yesterday #59
Again context matters for use of the word "bomb" hlthe2b Yesterday #49
Exactly.. whathehell Yesterday #56
Nice stretch there. AloeVera Yesterday #20
Context matters, yardwork. That is an incredible stretch. I like his lawyer's odds on this one. hlthe2b Yesterday #24
Really. yardwork Yesterday #27
Uggh huh. Threatening to remove him if he did not remove his shirt is a viable "harm" especially hlthe2b Yesterday #36
yeah- R0ckyRac00n Yesterday #55
Thanks for confirming what I suspected. ShazzieB Yesterday #67
The First Amendment is not relevant Cirsium 19 hrs ago #83
THANK YOU Skittles 20 hrs ago #81
It will be settled out of court. The Wizard Yesterday #11
Did he miss the flight? yardwork Yesterday #15
So their policy is if anyone of their staff is offended by your shirt, intheflow Yesterday #34
I think the DID understand what the shirt meant, Haggard Celine 4 hrs ago #96
You don't say the word "BOMB" in an airport or on a jet... nor should you make references to them. QueerDuck Yesterday #13
His subsequent actions tend to support that conclusion. yardwork Yesterday #14
Really...? displacedvermoter Yesterday #23
You. Don't. Say. BOMB. In. An. Airport. 💣️✈️ QueerDuck Yesterday #26
Ok displacedvermoter Yesterday #29
He didn't say it. AloeVera Yesterday #38
Blaming the flight attendant personally ignores the reality of the airline industry and how corporate liability works. QueerDuck 23 hrs ago #72
The airline itself characterized it as a dress code violation, not a safety violation. AloeVera 22 hrs ago #74
Passengers must obey flight crew instructions. He did. Then whined about it. End of story. QueerDuck 22 hrs ago #75
So, using your own words, someone made a "subjective judgement" AloeVera 21 hrs ago #78
As a legitimate backup to the threatening word of bomb. Yes. When it comes to flight crew the rule is simple.... QueerDuck 21 hrs ago #79
I gave up to attend to my whiplash. AloeVera 4 hrs ago #95
I want that shirt to wear to protests, Bayard Yesterday #21
This is the ridiculous side of those who want to make everything antisemitic and there are those hlthe2b Yesterday #22
Who said this incident is antisemitic? yardwork Yesterday #28
I listed this as but one of several possibilities. Again, jumping to conclusions is problematic hlthe2b Yesterday #32
What similar incidents? yardwork Yesterday #35
If she found that offensive then she must find 'Bombing kids is self defense' acceptable ToxMarz Yesterday #25
Exactly! If his flight partner had a t-shirt with your slogan, which one would get kicked off? TheRickles 22 hrs ago #77
A thought experiment relogic Yesterday #33
I find that to be extraordinarily unlikely. yardwork Yesterday #37
Please be specific relogic Yesterday #40
Your last sentence. yardwork Yesterday #43
So, then relogic Yesterday #53
Sure, the Trump administration is nuts and authoritarian. yardwork Yesterday #60
You underestimate relogic 19 hrs ago #85
or maybe Skittles 19 hrs ago #84
Hell, I want one! no_hypocrisy Yesterday #44
Just don't try to wear it on a plane! yardwork Yesterday #48
In related news Soul_of_Wit Yesterday #57
He'll win Joinfortmill Yesterday #62
He didn't mention any names. Why would one be upset?. twodogsbarking Yesterday #63
Me feelwings were hurt. I've seen shirts on planes WAY more "Hot Words" chouchou Yesterday #65
Irony... Both sides of the conflict could use the same meme/slogan on their propaganda. OC375 22 hrs ago #76
Would an idiot donning mAga attire get treated the same? BHDem53 20 hrs ago #80
Not likely... displacedvermoter 19 hrs ago #82
In solidarity.... Dethhogan 18 hrs ago #86
Selective reading by a not too bright airline person. Aussie105 17 hrs ago #87
I'm offended by that United flight attendant RainCaster 16 hrs ago #88
Will United make the MAGAt change their shirt? Or take off their red hat? maspaha 16 hrs ago #89
Gonna go out on a limb here and say air travel is not the place to fly your position flags high LearnedHand 15 hrs ago #90
I'm giving the flight attendant a mulligan on this Ruby the Liberal 6 hrs ago #91
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