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caseymoz

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12. You see "reality," but I hold "negative stereotypes?"

Fri Jun 8, 2012, 04:08 AM

Jun 2012

Sorry, conversation can't progress on that basis. All I could say is, wow, you've persuaded me already. I can forecast you how your ideas are going to fare in the wider world.

As for GWB being a catastrophe. No, think a world war. Think a world-wide depression far worse than anything we've seen in our lifetime. Think environmental wreckage that will erase the US off the map. I mean changing your mind in a way that huge armies moving through Europe changed the minds of the German people.

That's what I'm talking about with catastrophe. GWB wasn't even a prelude to it. He was just the first sign that something's structurally wrong with this country.

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