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Bonobo

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59. I am sorry but if you don't believe in 3 independent studies, I can't convince you.

Wed Jul 18, 2012, 11:41 AM

Jul 2012

You talk about superstition, but you are the one engaging in magical thinking.

To make the claim that it inflicts extra harm in Africa because it encourages reckless activity is beyond preposterous and is rich with irony since it is a life saving procedure simply if one goes with the numbers that are suggested by the 3 studies showing a dramatic decrease in the spread of HIV and other venereal diseases.

As for closeness to God, I do not think that many of the circumcisions done around the world are for that reason.

And as for the attenuation of sexual sensitivity, you cannot know what my penis feels like and I cannot know what yours feel like. The human nervous system is incredibly adaptive as is the brain and I strongly suspect that the nerve endings lost as a baby are made up for with other neural connections. But then again, sex is more in the head than the head of the penis.

Thanks for the great conversation and welcome to DU.

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Is your penis "mutilated"? [View all] Bonobo Jul 2012 OP

I have a scar from my mutilation. Warren Stupidity Jul 2012 #1

Your parents consented. caseymoz Jul 2012 #72

That is so devoid of logic it is laughable. Warren Stupidity Jul 2012 #73

Ritual? caseymoz Jul 2012 #74

"important to the child's ultimate destiny" has nothing to do with medical necessity. Warren Stupidity Jul 2012 #75

Seriously-- tattoo would be completely accurate. caseymoz Aug 2012 #79

I think putting a large tattoo on an infant would be pretty bad, too. Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #78

It does confer some resistance to AIDS. caseymoz Aug 2012 #80

When I first saw your post, I thought you meant large tatoos. Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #81

It seems to be fully functional. Downwinder Jul 2012 #2

Since you ask, I'm not among those who play victim behind word choices.... NYC_SKP Jul 2012 #3

Great answer. nt Bonobo Jul 2012 #4

Yeah, I suppose so, but my real problem with it is... TreasonousBastard Jul 2012 #5

Since I occasionally fuck the garbage disposal, sort of. MrSlayer Jul 2012 #6

Pfffffffft Warren DeMontague Jul 2012 #10

If a womans breasts were removed *against her will* I would describe it as mutilation 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #7

Wait a minute... when did "volition" enter into the definition for "mutilate"? Bonobo Jul 2012 #9

Now you've gone definitional. Warren Stupidity Jul 2012 #12

Def: 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #16

I notice you have respond to other posts but have so far failed to respond to mine 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #61

No, it is not. It is, however, circumcised. Behind the Aegis Jul 2012 #8

No it is the correct definition of the non-consensual act. Warren Stupidity Jul 2012 #13

This message was self-deleted by its author Behind the Aegis Jul 2012 #17

Of course it is. Cayenne Jul 2012 #43

This message was self-deleted by its author Behind the Aegis Jul 2012 #44

It was, shall we say, "pruned". Without my express consent, 'coz i was like 2 days old. Warren DeMontague Jul 2012 #11

This ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2012 #15

Yeah, there may be a double standard.. Upton Jul 2012 #14

Watched it done to my son. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #18

My wife and I went back and forth over it for months, esp. b/c she's more traditionally Jewish Warren DeMontague Jul 2012 #20

nope its just perfect loli phabay Jul 2012 #19

My genitals have been mutilated. Cayenne Jul 2012 #21

do roman catholics have to be circumcised? never heard that before. loli phabay Jul 2012 #22

It's not an explicit requirment Cayenne Jul 2012 #24

so really you being circumcised what not because of the roman catholic church but rather your family loli phabay Jul 2012 #25

My dad's not alive to ask Cayenne Jul 2012 #29

Nah, there are several good reasons. Bonobo Jul 2012 #30

I guess you don't care about FGM; their child, their business. Cayenne Jul 2012 #34

Seems pretty obvious that foreskin provides a better environment for bacteria Bonobo Jul 2012 #35

Soap and water n/t Cayenne Jul 2012 #36

Yes, that would help. Bonobo Jul 2012 #37

its down to an individuals choice, whether as a parent or individual loli phabay Jul 2012 #38

What's wrong with letting your child decide what's best? Cayenne Jul 2012 #40

A few things come to mind. Bonobo Jul 2012 #41

No arguement. Cayenne Jul 2012 #47

Funny, but it looks to me that you tacitly agreed already that it is not obsolete. Bonobo Jul 2012 #48

No Cayenne Jul 2012 #58

I am sorry but if you don't believe in 3 independent studies, I can't convince you. Bonobo Jul 2012 #59

No. In fact all the uncircumcised boys in my MineralMan Jul 2012 #68

i think you need to do some research then, plenty of free porn for you to check out and get back to loli phabay Jul 2012 #69

I don't watch porn. MineralMan Jul 2012 #70

its not porn its research loli phabay Jul 2012 #71

Sure, they cut off the tip of my dingus, but at least I wasn't FORCED TO EAT CAKE! Warren DeMontague Jul 2012 #23

wierd reference, glad to see little swedish babies are forced to eat delicious cake as well loli phabay Jul 2012 #26

I think what happens is, most 1 yr olds have never seen cake. Warren DeMontague Jul 2012 #27

LOL forcing, my kids just dive in, they love cake. loli phabay Jul 2012 #28

Like a picture of a naked woman on the internet, to some it is apparently the pinnacle of oppression Warren DeMontague Jul 2012 #45

what there are naked pictures of women on the internet ;) loli phabay Jul 2012 #51

Bacterial Penis Infections!! Bonobo Jul 2012 #31

I have my own views on it, but not to the extent of telling other people what to do. Warren DeMontague Jul 2012 #32

Sure, even doctors will have different ideas of whether it is medically justifiable. Bonobo Jul 2012 #33

everybody has their own hill to die on, for some its fighting circumcision, for others the naked loli phabay Jul 2012 #39

I like that philosophy. Bonobo Jul 2012 #42

well i was born a commando wooly pully and all that and ill die commando :) loli phabay Jul 2012 #52

I'm not interested in outlawing it. Warren DeMontague Jul 2012 #46

I have no problem with you feeling that way. Bonobo Jul 2012 #49

Lotta people do. Warren DeMontague Jul 2012 #50

Yes! Yes, it is! Warren DeMontague Jul 2012 #53

Can you tie it in a knot? Can you tie it in a bow? Behind the Aegis Jul 2012 #54

Let's put it this way: Jim Rose wouldn't hire me because I was, quote, "overqualified" Warren DeMontague Jul 2012 #55

lets be honest the only thing that matters is that it works loli phabay Jul 2012 #56

I thought the term was "Can you throw it over your shoulder like a Continental soldier...?" MADem Jul 2012 #62

That's another version. LOL! Behind the Aegis Jul 2012 #63

Wait, I'm confused. Is it the Continental soldier that gets thrown over the shoulder? Warren DeMontague Jul 2012 #64

Either is fine by me! Behind the Aegis Jul 2012 #65

I'm strong, but I still don't think it would be ergonomically advisable. Warren DeMontague Jul 2012 #66

I think "it" gets thrown over the shoulder like a Continental soldier. MADem Jul 2012 #67

My mom and dad never told me, how do I tell? snooper2 Jul 2012 #57

I don't consider it mutilated. Nor does my wife. Common Sense Party Jul 2012 #60

Not yet Warren DeMontague Jul 2012 #76

Sometimes I envy uncut guys Sick of the GOP Aug 2012 #77

meh Broderick Aug 2012 #82