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TheMastersNemesis

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17. Needs No Context
Fri Feb 24, 2012, 08:52 PM
Feb 2012

I was a theater major in college. We analyzed things from many points of view. The statement itself says volumes and I do not need context. The context idea is a straw dog argument. It is specious and irrelevant from my point of view.

Since I do not know the conversation that led up to that statement I assume it was about women's rights or something similar.

The statement as I look at it comes from the bias about women always having anger issues. It is tied to the "time of month" meme. The standard belief by men is that women are just angry creatures.

Even in the history of theater there are patterns in the treatment of female characters. As I remember my theater history I do not recall very many heroic female characters in Western theater. Women seemed to be enigmatic, angry, complicated, shrewish, victims, malleable, weak, mad, controlling etc.

Only in the modern era have women been more sympathetically treated in theater or the arts.

Going back to your question the context does not matter based on your post. It is a subtle put down.

My take on the war on womens' rights today is that it is now combat. It is not nuanced. It is direct and it is dangerous. For women it is a time to go into political combat and TAKE NO PRISONERS. The anti women forces must surrender that includes the churches who are fair game.

I am 68 year old and a veteran. I have watched this anti woman garbage all my life. It is time that it be stopped in NO UNCERTAIN terms.
If I had my way all these hateful mysogynistic bastards would be fleeing in panic and terror for their political lives.

I recommend you find a copy of the Greek play "Lysistrata" written by I believe Aristophanes. It was written during the golden age of Greek theater in the BC era as early as 300 BC. You will see how nothing has changed. Women had trouble with their men over 2300 years ago.

PS I was raised Catholic and I now realize that the Catholic Church and its clergy are some of the most anti women people on the planet save conservative moslems who may be worse .

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Yes; Yes; could be. Depends on the circumstances. elleng Feb 2012 #1
clarification, please... are you answering in order? Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #3
In order: elleng Feb 2012 #13
ok. thanks Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #14
Is it just another way to dismiss a female debate? PDJane Feb 2012 #2
thank you for the comment. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #4
I've seen this comment from males Warpy Feb 2012 #5
thank you for the comment Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #8
"Tone argument" Starry Messenger Feb 2012 #6
thank you for the link and the quote. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #10
Different rhetorical styles appeal to different people. ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #7
thank you for the comment. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #11
You're welcome. Thanks for the thread. nt ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #21
Anger Is Justified TheMastersNemesis Feb 2012 #9
ok...question for clarification Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #12
Needs No Context TheMastersNemesis Feb 2012 #17
thank you very much for a well reasoned and thoughtful reply and the history of Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #18
Addendum Clarification. TheMastersNemesis Feb 2012 #19
yes, and you are explaining how theatre works within the confines of reflecting Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #20
Mores In Context TheMastersNemesis Feb 2012 #22
That depends ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2012 #15
refer to comment #9 (and my reply #12) on this thread, please -- Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #16
I would take that comment as an invitation to respond with a kick to the groin. laconicsax Feb 2012 #23
thank you for the comment. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #28
Depends on the context. JoeyT Feb 2012 #24
thank you for the comment Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #29
I think context really is important and here's why justiceischeap Feb 2012 #25
it was the second. thanks Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #26
"You'd be angry too if you were held to a completely different standard because of your gender." CrispyQ Feb 2012 #27
thank you for the comment Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #30
The problem is that women are not supposed to get angry Nikia Feb 2012 #31
Often, it is. gkhouston Feb 2012 #32
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