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10. Fifty Shades, I think, is the exception, not the rule.
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 03:22 PM
Dec 2013

It started out as a Twilight fanfic, which I think explains its initial popularity. Fanfic readers are, unfortunately, more apt to read stories with rape and dubious consent than anything else, and more often if it occurs in slash stories. I don't know why, but that's what I've observed over the years. Also, the author knew how to market it. I don't know of any romance writers that actually like it though. One I know compared it to the Ariel Castro case--you have a guy holding a woman prisoner and doing things to her that she only submits to because he is rich and handsome.

Every romance publisher I've looked at has specific guidelines--no rape for titillation, the hero can't be a rapist, and the heroine can't fall in love with him if he is. No more Luke and Laura General Hospital or The Flame and the Flower type stories.

In defense of romantic fiction, I will say that all genre fiction is formulaic in one way or another, if you analyze it. Someone wants something, something stops him or her from getting it, there is a struggle of some sort, either physical or emotional, sometimes both, and the thing desired is either obtained or not. It's just that in a romance there is usually a happy ending. I don't think there's anything wrong with that (obviously!), especially with so much darkness in the world; hope is not a bad thing. Yes, some romance authors have switched genres, either because of burnout or wanting to stretch their wings, but a more likely reason, imo, is because the genre is so looked down upon, and even though they're fantastic writers, they weren't taken seriously.

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in the 70's and 80's i could agree. and a new crop of them now. but for a couple decades, seabeyond Dec 2013 #1
If women choose to eroticize their own oppression, that makes it OK! redqueen Dec 2013 #2
I'm really glad you started this tread. CrispyQ Dec 2013 #3
I was about to start one more thread and head out the door, redqueen Dec 2013 #4
if you sexualize, glamorize, use to entertain, then yes. and that is what they do today and why i seabeyond Dec 2013 #5
"Girl with the Dragon Tattoo" - yes, that was it. CrispyQ Dec 2013 #15
They didn't sexualize it at all. I think it was one of the few movies that Squinch Dec 2013 #19
I think it is possible to have rape in a story without it being xulamaude Dec 2013 #6
This is what I thought too, but I wanted to check with my fellow fems. -nt CrispyQ Dec 2013 #16
I know of several romance authors who have treated this subject historylovr Dec 2013 #8
Thank you for your post & confirming my thoughts about it. -nt CrispyQ Dec 2013 #17
I absolutely think it is. This is the experience of a third of women, and rape culture Squinch Dec 2013 #12
Great post! CrispyQ Dec 2013 #18
Once that corner of the veil comes up, suddenly everything relates to it. Squinch Dec 2013 #20
Is this a trend or is it confined to one very badly written book recently popular Warpy Dec 2013 #7
i hear that a lot, that it is simply male porn. i disagree. it is a g, pg or r rated movie. seabeyond Dec 2013 #9
I hear that a lot too, and it's just wrong. It's not porn for women. historylovr Dec 2013 #11
i had one, and excellent story. like superb in writing and developing. and you know what... seabeyond Dec 2013 #13
Fifty Shades, I think, is the exception, not the rule. historylovr Dec 2013 #10
You mean "bodice rippers"? ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #14
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