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cinnabonbon

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24. I was reading about this yesterday
Sun Jan 19, 2014, 04:04 PM
Jan 2014

And I came across quotes like this.


“I’d like to really show what I believe the men want to see: violence against women. I firmly believe that we [pornographers] serve a purpose by showing that. The most violent we can get is the cum shot in the face. Men get off behind that, because they get even with the women they can’t have. We try to inundate the world with orgasms in the face.” - Bill Margold, porn industry veteran, quoted in Robert J. Stoller and I. S. Levine, Coming Attractions: The Making of an X-rated video; 1993.


“There’s nothing I love more than when a girl insists to me that she won’t take a cock in her ass, because — oh yes she will!” - Max Hardcore, interviewed in Hustler (June 1995).

“My whole reason for being in this Industry is to satisfy the desire of the men in the world who basically don’t much care for women and want to see the men in my Industry getting even with the women they couldn’t have when they were growing up. I strongly believe this… so we come on a woman’s face or somewhat brutalize her sexually: we’re getting even for their lost dreams. I believe this. I’ve heard audiences cheer me when I do something foul on screen. When I’ve strangled a person or sodomized a person, or brutalized a person, the audience is cheering my action, and then when I’ve fulfilled my warped desire, the audience applauds.” - Bill Margold, porn industry veteran and Free Speech Coalition board member.


“It might promote violence against women in the United States, but I say, ‘Good.’ I hate those bitches. They’re out of line and that’s one of the reasons I want to do this … I’m going through a divorce right now. … I hate American women.” - What pornographers really think of women (Deutsche Presse-Agentur, 14 October 1999)



And this is just what they'll readily admit to the press.

It's hard to look at it as a job that you can endorse as a feminist. There's no respect for the women they work with. No respect for boundaries. I was reading about what happened to Linda Lovelace, too, and it both makes me horrified and *angry* on her behalf.

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Hey "Radical" Feminists [View all] arely staircase Jan 2014 OP
Would you mind clarifying what you are asking forgiveness for? BainsBane Jan 2014 #1
being a smartass instead of trying to reach an understanding arely staircase Jan 2014 #2
I appreciate your apology BainsBane Jan 2014 #4
right wing and left wing opponents of pornography do indeed oppeose it for different reasons arely staircase Jan 2014 #6
Rec for "yes means yes" MadrasT Jan 2014 #3
thank you and yes the porn thing is complicated arely staircase Jan 2014 #5
I haven't seen anyone say that porn should be banned. cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #18
+1 nomorenomore08 Feb 2014 #37
Thanks for this. redqueen Jan 2014 #7
viva leticia arely staircase Jan 2014 #8
There's a pretty well defined meaning behind "rape culture." Gravitycollapse Jan 2014 #9
no there really isnt arely staircase Jan 2014 #10
I'm not super into the whole "agree to disagree" theme on this subject. Gravitycollapse Jan 2014 #11
it is a concept upon which arely staircase Jan 2014 #12
You do a lot of academic level reading in feminist theory? Gravitycollapse Jan 2014 #13
oh mother arely staircase Jan 2014 #14
No agreement at all? Really? redqueen Jan 2014 #15
That is true for virtually everything BainsBane Jan 2014 #16
Disagreement between people on the same side is ultimately healthy cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #17
re: "yes means yes" redqueen Jan 2014 #21
I don't recognize cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #23
Read them and cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #28
I'm so glad you enjoyed it! She really breaks it down well. redqueen Jan 2014 #29
She really did. I love it when people use theory to explain, like she did. cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #30
I live in the UK... radtransfem Feb 2014 #34
Thank you for the clarification, Lisa! cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #35
Aw, radtransfem Feb 2014 #36
And I think many on the left often uses pro-porn stances as a means of escaping sexual shame ismnotwasm Jan 2014 #19
But even at best, it's not enough. The "prop" that is. nomorenomore08 Feb 2014 #38
what we should preach is mzteris Jan 2014 #20
Some will compare porn to other jobs as if they're analogous, redqueen Jan 2014 #22
I was reading about this yesterday cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #24
There's a lot of denial going on, for self-described liberals and progressives to be defending this redqueen Jan 2014 #25
There is no limit (no bottom) to human cruelty. We are a sick, sick species. nomorenomore08 Feb 2014 #39
I don't want to derail your post in the men's group noamnety Jan 2014 #26
Ugh, is that going on in that group? redqueen Jan 2014 #27
I'm at a loss for an appropriate answer. noamnety Jan 2014 #31
If it's a sincere attempt at honest discussion, the guilt by association bullshit needs to stop. redqueen Jan 2014 #32
I really respect and mzteris Jan 2014 #33
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