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BainsBane

(56,289 posts) Sat Feb 8, 2014, 02:25 AM Feb 2014

Can there ever be enough evidence for people to believe a rape victim? [View all]

Whether child or adult? Or does it not matter how much evidence there is, people will insist the perpetrator is not guilty regardless? Is rape culture really so intractable?

The definitive thread on the Allen-Dylan Farrow case is by Roguevalley. It links to the court ruling in Woody Allen custody case. If you click through from the HuffPo article to the document itself, you will learn as much as you can without having been in the attic that day.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024461709

I want so badly for the despair I express above to be wrong. I hope people who have defended Allen read that court ruling and think carefully about so easily dismissing a victim's word about assault.

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Can there ever be enough evidence for people to believe a rape victim? [View all] BainsBane Feb 2014 OP

Not if they don't want to believe. elleng Feb 2014 #1

The vast majority of cases of rape are real /nt lostincalifornia Feb 2014 #2

Yet why every time a case arises BainsBane Feb 2014 #3

Sex is, and always has been, a somewhat dangerous pastime. reusrename Feb 2014 #4

It is a serious mistake to conflate sex and rape BainsBane Feb 2014 #5

Yes, it's a very serious mistake. reusrename Feb 2014 #6

Hold on BainsBane Feb 2014 #7

I agree with most of what you said, so I'll just address where we disagree. reusrename Feb 2014 #8

A moral issue of what is appropriate BainsBane Feb 2014 #23

Are you saying rape victims are often disbelieved because *rarely*, rape cases are used redqueen Feb 2014 #11

Indeed. BainsBane Feb 2014 #25

Yes. That's exactly the point I am making. reusrename Feb 2014 #28

My point was simply that the vast majority of people wo are raped or report rape are valid. What lostincalifornia Feb 2014 #10

I hope you're right about the majority of DU BainsBane Feb 2014 #24

That judge seems like a gem. He read between the lines, and made provisions to Squinch Feb 2014 #9

"But I am frankly terrified for those two children he is raising with Soon-Yi." Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #14

well-said n/t zazen Feb 2014 #26

Face It, Baines - Some people love to wallow in it. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #12

And some will always believe a man over a girl or woman BainsBane Feb 2014 #13

There are a few on here that, yes ... if you or sea said "water is wet" they Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #15

Typically there are no links BainsBane Feb 2014 #16

yes, the peanut gallery. Those few that do provide links, I have more respect for them. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #17

If someone is on topic, cool BainsBane Feb 2014 #18

This = Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #19

If Dylan Farrow was a boy instead of a girl, do you think the accusations would Sheldon Cooper Feb 2014 #20

Yes BainsBane Feb 2014 #21

if the molester was a woman instead of a man..... lol, nt seabeyond Feb 2014 #22

No. Agschmid Feb 2014 #27

Yes. laundry_queen Feb 2014 #32

Obviously not gaspee Feb 2014 #29

Some of them are just women-hating trolls. They don't bother me as much as the ones Squinch Feb 2014 #31

Rape is almost legal gollygee Feb 2014 #30