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History of Feminism

reusrename

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4. Sex is, and always has been, a somewhat dangerous pastime.

Reply to BainsBane (Reply #3)

Sat Feb 8, 2014, 03:33 AM

Feb 2014

A lot of problems are created when allegations of a sex crime are used for political purposes, such as in the Lewinsky case or the Assange case. This is the behavior that is the most despicable, imho. Yet some folks just don't want to see how this kind of activity affects the victims.

Just so there is no confusion about what I just said, I didn't make any claim at all about whether or not Monica herself or Assange's partners are victims. But I do assert that, victims or not, their experiences have been used for political purposes.

This stuff is how you get into folk's monkey hind-brain. We're wired for it. Propagandists know we are.

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Can there ever be enough evidence for people to believe a rape victim? [View all] BainsBane Feb 2014 OP

Not if they don't want to believe. elleng Feb 2014 #1

The vast majority of cases of rape are real /nt lostincalifornia Feb 2014 #2

Yet why every time a case arises BainsBane Feb 2014 #3

Sex is, and always has been, a somewhat dangerous pastime. reusrename Feb 2014 #4

It is a serious mistake to conflate sex and rape BainsBane Feb 2014 #5

Yes, it's a very serious mistake. reusrename Feb 2014 #6

Hold on BainsBane Feb 2014 #7

I agree with most of what you said, so I'll just address where we disagree. reusrename Feb 2014 #8

A moral issue of what is appropriate BainsBane Feb 2014 #23

Are you saying rape victims are often disbelieved because *rarely*, rape cases are used redqueen Feb 2014 #11

Indeed. BainsBane Feb 2014 #25

Yes. That's exactly the point I am making. reusrename Feb 2014 #28

My point was simply that the vast majority of people wo are raped or report rape are valid. What lostincalifornia Feb 2014 #10

I hope you're right about the majority of DU BainsBane Feb 2014 #24

That judge seems like a gem. He read between the lines, and made provisions to Squinch Feb 2014 #9

"But I am frankly terrified for those two children he is raising with Soon-Yi." Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #14

well-said n/t zazen Feb 2014 #26

Face It, Baines - Some people love to wallow in it. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #12

And some will always believe a man over a girl or woman BainsBane Feb 2014 #13

There are a few on here that, yes ... if you or sea said "water is wet" they Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #15

Typically there are no links BainsBane Feb 2014 #16

yes, the peanut gallery. Those few that do provide links, I have more respect for them. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #17

If someone is on topic, cool BainsBane Feb 2014 #18

This = Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #19

If Dylan Farrow was a boy instead of a girl, do you think the accusations would Sheldon Cooper Feb 2014 #20

Yes BainsBane Feb 2014 #21

if the molester was a woman instead of a man..... lol, nt seabeyond Feb 2014 #22

No. Agschmid Feb 2014 #27

Yes. laundry_queen Feb 2014 #32

Obviously not gaspee Feb 2014 #29

Some of them are just women-hating trolls. They don't bother me as much as the ones Squinch Feb 2014 #31

Rape is almost legal gollygee Feb 2014 #30