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10. We were headed to a dark ugly place before the shutdown. The shutdown will temporarily

Reply to Javaman (Original post)

Wed Oct 1, 2025, 10:32 AM

Oct 1

make things worse...it's unclear to me what the ultimate outcome will be, whether or not resistance gains strength or deflates. This is a battle that could go either way. I hope dems and the shutdown give a few goprs cover to negotiate rather than dems giving in and getting nothing for the trouble but blame.

It should be stated that goprs and WH were shutting down important, key fed govt functions before this, doing much more harm to millions than the shutdown.

Good time for dems and MSM to bring up damage to FEMA, CDC, FDA, intelligence, alliances, norms, laws before the shutdown happened.

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I fear this will be a long shut down... [View all] Javaman Oct 1 OP

And I fear we'll fold and, yet again, Trump and the GOP will win. Chasstev365 Oct 1 #1

What else is there when we aren't in power? Groundhawg Oct 1 #13

We are screwed by the structure of our "democratic" goverment as much as anything dwayneb Oct 1 #16

And during such time- I would like a the Democrat message PuraVidaDreamin Oct 1 #2

They like to inflict pain. They love this. kerouac2 Oct 1 #3

Republicans control all three branches of government. Emile Oct 1 #4

There is a huge problem with that scenario, gab13by13 Oct 1 #6

The time to take a stand was back in March gab13by13 Oct 1 #5

They only needed 51 votes in March. GoodRaisin Oct 1 #14

This is exactly about Epstien, and dems need to say so. Volaris Oct 1 #7

Epstein files if released will be a blip on the radar dwayneb Oct 1 #15

Congress will return to regular session on October 7, even if the shutdown is still ongoing. Wiz Imp Oct 1 #8

As soon as ATC's refuse to work it will be over. n/t Jacson6 Oct 1 #9

How long did that take last time, not quite a month, iirc? Volaris Oct 1 #20

IIRC it was twelve days or two days before their payday. n/t Jacson6 Oct 1 #21

Thank you! Its just me, but i have a feeling this will last till halloween, at least. Volaris Oct 1 #22

We were headed to a dark ugly place before the shutdown. The shutdown will temporarily wiggs Oct 1 #10

Yes, our cruel ruthless administration will not pass up every opportunity to concentrate wealth and power. It's wiggs Oct 1 #11

Hard for us and impossible for a MAGA to imagine where this will take them too dwayneb Oct 1 #17

We need to win elections and be smarter generally gulliver Oct 1 #12

Practical liberalism is what we need dwayneb Oct 1 #18

I like practical liberalism too gulliver Oct 1 #19