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ToxMarz

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34. It's defamation if you say something you KNOW to be false. It isn't if you believe what your saying to be true

Sun Jan 18, 2026, 11:41 AM

Jan 18

They would first have to somehow establish this is not a murderer and saying so is false (and it is completely valid that someone might believe what he did is muder based on what is publicly known and seen). Then going forward it would be defamation to say it knowing this is proven false. Anything said prior to this is not defamation if the speaker believed it to be true and reasonably so.

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Border czar says, Jonathon Ross may sue for defamation of being labled a murderer [View all] mysteryowl Jan 18 OP

The trial would be interesting. dem4decades Jan 18 #1

The TRUTH is an affirmative defense TexasBushwhacker Jan 18 #71

LOL! Do it! You murderer! Coventina Jan 18 #2

Let's have a trial first and find out if he's a murderer. sinkingfeeling Jan 18 #3

Jonathon Ross is a murderer. Rincewind Jan 18 #4

And He's Probably Done It Before WiVoter Jan 18 #12

He looked very confident with his actions of murder. mysteryowl Jan 18 #16

While recording on his phone! SheltieLover Jan 18 #37

He' murdered before and gotten away with it DBoon Jan 18 #45

No doubt! SheltieLover Jan 18 #69

He looked like a man who has fired a gun at another person before. CincyDem Jan 18 #62

Is Pam Going to be his lawyer ornotna Jan 18 #5

Please file that law suit Mr.Ross. Joyce Vance, or Glen Kirschner or Kamala Harris might love that case. Botany Jan 18 #6

maybe this is BS jaymac Jan 18 #29

Money would come flowing in a la Rittenhouse and Zimmerman underpants Jan 18 #79

OK, would HOMICIDAL MANIAC be more appropriate? no_hypocrisy Jan 18 #7

Every move seems to be a copy-cat of Trump's strategies. Baitball Blogger Jan 18 #8

Yeah. His first thought was to hide his computer. People will get at his comments anyway. travelingthrulife Jan 18 #10

You win the thread orangecrush Jan 18 #19

. Baitball Blogger Jan 18 #48

... orangecrush Jan 18 #50

DUzy!! 🏅🏆 littlemissmartypants Jan 18 #53

And he is not rich and powerful like Trump newdeal2 Jan 18 #20

Murderer. Go for it Piggy. travelingthrulife Jan 18 #9

K&R for, wouldn't he have to show his face? How about some medical records? UTUSN Jan 18 #11

Oooh that's good. Prove you were injured. mysteryowl Jan 18 #14

I think a grand jury convened by the state/city might wipe the smile off his face.... Historic NY Jan 18 #13

He's a murderer, murderer, murderer, murderer, murderer maxrandb Jan 18 #15

State sanctioned murderer, murderer, murderer... LuvLoogie Jan 18 #83

Discovery will be interesting. sakabatou Jan 18 #17

Who does Rebl2 Jan 18 #18

The "Internet" mysteryowl Jan 18 #21

That's RIGHT!!!! AZ8theist Jan 18 #65

Homan is... GiqueCee Jan 18 #22

He's Bovino, but taller and without hair . . . hatrack Jan 18 #52

Sue away you fucker! paleotn Jan 18 #23

Who is he going to sue? Probatim Jan 18 #24

Wonder how many of these idiots actually know how lawsuits work? SSJVegeta Jan 18 #25

Except that Trump did sue for that, and ABC settled for $15 million plus $1 million in legal fees MichMan Jan 18 #63

No. He sued a company over misreporting a judegement SSJVegeta Jan 18 #85

Defamation lawsuits aren't limited to victims of crimes MichMan Jan 18 #86

I never said he didnt have any defamation lawsuits. I said he never sued anybody for calling him a rapist SSJVegeta Jan 18 #91

Correct MichMan Jan 18 #93

It is a legal judgement which he mischaracterized. Trump is still a rapist SSJVegeta Jan 18 #95

This would be a fun lawsuit to follow LetMyPeopleVote Jan 18 #76

.. SSJVegeta Jan 18 #84

It isn't libel, slander, or defamation... Kid Berwyn Jan 18 #26

Aww...the poor murderer got his feefees hurt! LudwigPastorius Jan 18 #27

"Homan said he expects Ross to "'wait for this investigation to pan itself out'"? Mister Ed Jan 18 #28

Calling Lindsay Halligan vankuria Jan 18 #30

Judge Wine Box Sweet Rosie Red Jan 18 #64

What is it with this Homan jerk? Big tough guy thinks he's KPN Jan 18 #31

Quiet, ham face. SheltieLover Jan 18 #32

9 days & still no arrest for this murderer Jonathon Ross LetMyPeopleVote Jan 18 #77

Sure, our upside-down, inside-out country starts new norm. pandr32 Jan 18 #33

It's defamation if you say something you KNOW to be false. It isn't if you believe what your saying to be true ToxMarz Jan 18 #34

Where is the 50,00 in fbi cash you took? Did kash get half? Blues Heron Jan 18 #35

I wonder Katcat Jan 18 #36

Just following his dear leader. Hope22 Jan 18 #38

Bring it, asshole. Because your name isn't filthy enough yet. Scrivener7 Jan 18 #39

Let's just say he sues. That means discovery and depositions. That process will be devastating for him. flashman13 Jan 18 #40

you gonna sue the entire internet then? TalenaGor Jan 18 #41

Oh, he wants to go after podcasters Farmer-Rick Jan 18 #42

Where does he expect people to draw the line? DFW Jan 18 #43

Executing a young mother with 4 shots to the head, for what? C_U_L8R Jan 18 #44

* I think there were 3 shots underpants Jan 18 #82

Then allow a fair investigation to prove any innocence vapor2 Jan 18 #46

He should be sued for wrongful death. (NT) The Wizard Jan 18 #47

Yes, if he could be found mysteryowl Jan 18 #51

Does FUCKING MURDERING SADISTIC MISOGYNIST SCUM work niyad Jan 18 #49

Per Blanche, there will be NO INVESTIGATION Leghorn21 Jan 18 #54

Fine, he is now an accessory to premeditated murder. SonOfNebanaube Jan 18 #90

Money grubbing psychopath works, too. littlemissmartypants Jan 18 #55

Let's hope so VGuerra276 Jan 18 #56

He hasn't been charged or convicted with a crime. He has a strong case, but it would increase the backlash against ICE Doodley Jan 18 #57

"Discovery" would be a wonderful process... ret5hd Jan 18 #58

oh, btw Homan...you're a murderer too. ret5hd Jan 18 #59

If you don't want to be called a murderer... liberalla Jan 18 #60

We calls it the way it is UpInArms Jan 18 #61

Please do azureblue Jan 18 #66

Every text will be fair game Buckeyeblue Jan 18 #67

I was going to make a discovery comment, but I am pleased to see it is well covered. Norrrm Jan 18 #68

Prove you're not a murderer oswaldactedalone Jan 18 #70

You know, the best way to avoid being called a murderer Bettie Jan 18 #72

I really hate these stupid podcast declarations MorbidButterflyTat Jan 18 #73

Like it or not Greg_In_SF Jan 18 #74

It is fine to say the name of this murderer LetMyPeopleVote Jan 18 #75

It's not defamation if it's true. Ilsa Jan 18 #78

There is no dispute that Ross killed her, but murder is a specific crime MichMan Jan 18 #88

Sue who, killer? choie Jan 18 #80

What nerve!!! returnee Jan 18 #81

You Do That, Cold ICE Murdering ASSHOLE. Cha Jan 18 #87

Straight out of the Trump playbook Bristlecone Jan 18 #89

Oh fucking what??? Initech Jan 18 #92

Oh, please please do! struggle4progress Jan 18 #94

Bring it ! kacekwl Jan 18 #96