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DFW

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16. I figured it was just something done for juvenile shock value
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 06:34 AM
Jun 7

I very much doubt that biker gangs, for example, have the slightest idea of ancient Hindu symbols or the philosophy of National Socialism, and yet they love having swastikas on their jackets or on their skin. Peer pressure. It's what they do. But biker gangs want no government at all, and National Socialists wanted government to be everything--as long as they are the government, bien entendu. They couldn't be farther apart. Musk, on the other hand, knew exactly what he was doing.

As for absolute adherence to being a party candidate, I agree 99% of the time, but I can't forget the very first time I voted. I was 19 and living in Philadelphia (college). There was an open race for mayor. Philly was a guaranteed Democratic town, and no Republican was ever going to win the race for mayor. The city Democratic machine was as corrupt as could be, so they nominated someone they could easily manipulate. They nominated the sadistic, oafish police commissioner, Frank Rizzo. The Republicans found their sacrificial lamb, a mild, softly spoken bureaucrat named Thatcher Longstreth. Rizzo won, of course, and quickly switched parties to become a Republican (this was 1971), went down to hang with Nixon and celebrate the Vietnam war, but soon was forced to resign when it was found he was building a huge mansion costing ten times his salary. That was too much even for the Republicans. After all, this was Pennsylvania, not Florida. I voted for Longstreth, the only time I ever voted for a Republican. There was no way I was ever going to vote for sadistic, dim-witted police commissioner whose trademark was to show up at formal events with a smirk and a billy club in his cummerbund (literally! That was not a joke), no matter what his party affiliation.

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No, the difference is that the tattoo was acknowledged as bad and dealt with, unlike the salute. RockRaven Jun 6 #1
I agree. Eko Jun 6 #2
Musk is a loud white supremacist struggle4progress Jun 6 #3
I agree. Eko Jun 6 #6
The only thing to think about is whether or not Susan Collins should remain a Senator. Ocelot II Jun 6 #4
Literally NOT a binary choice Boo1 Jun 7 #13
Sure it is. The binary choice is between Collins and a Democrat. Ocelot II Jun 7 #21
Right, 2 other Dems who NO ONE is talking about or giving money to. RandomNumbers Jun 7 #23
I guess we're getting down to the hairsplitting phase of this nt GenThePerservering Jun 6 #5
Making Platner about a Jewish group you dislike Sympthsical Jun 6 #7
Musk's 'Nazi salute' was a much more universally recognizable 'Nazi symbol' than Jack Valentino Jun 6 #8
Can I find both bad? EdmondDantes_ Jun 6 #9
Sure. Eko Jun 6 #10
An example of taking sides while allegedly not taking sides. NoRethugFriends Jun 7 #11
Maybe you are just attacking the messenger Eko Jun 7 #12
Actually, you are attacking a democratic candidate JCMach1 Jun 7 #14
No, I'm not. Eko Jun 7 #15
That was an embarrassing moment for the ADL EdmondDantes_ Jun 7 #17
Yup. But if you look further they report about students possibly saying anti-semitic things all the time Eko Jun 7 #18
And their follow up has been? Eko Jun 7 #20
Respectfully, with Musk there is a long pattern of behavior JCMach1 Jun 7 #19
That's part of my point. Eko Jun 7 #24
I figured it was just something done for juvenile shock value DFW Jun 7 #16
JFC! You can't be serious maxrandb Jun 7 #22
I agree. Eko Jun 7 #25
Which side are you on, boys? Which side are you on? Easterncedar Jun 7 #26
Welp -misanthroptimist Jun 7 #27
Platner step bro is Seth Frantzman of Jerusalem Post fame delisen Jun 7 #28
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